Space is big.

Really... Really... BIG


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery.  Now, we might
> need to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there
> heading in random directions.  I have a suspicion that the Earth and other
> planets and moons have been impacted by this type of debris in the distant
> past.  Let's hope it does not occur too frequently.
>
> Dave
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From: James Bowery <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:53 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process
>
>  As luck would have it:
>
>  Surprising new class of “hypervelocity stars” discovered escaping the
> galaxy
>
>  http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/01/hypervelocity-stars/
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Steven,
>>
>>  A few years back I also wrote a program that handled a central large
>> star like object with another orbiting it.  I had a plan to eventually
>> include a small number of other objects that were to interact
>> gravitationally, but never found the time to complete the project.  I was
>> curious about how different attraction laws effected the orbits of planets,
>> and the answer was loud and clear; forget about anything except for the
>> second order case!  I observed the elliptical orbits and that was about the
>> end of that project.
>>
>>  I am happy to hear that you did something similar but much more
>> extensive.  If you get a chance, take a look at that program that I was
>> mentioning (Planets).  One item that I find particularly interesting is
>> that you can call up a flood of small planets to interact simultaneously.
>> The behavior that you witness is quite impressive and it makes the fact
>> that our solar system is relatively stable seem fortunate.
>>
>>  I did notice that very few moons appear orbiting my planets.  My
>> suspicion is that most of the moons seen today are a result of collisions
>> between the main planet and smaller objects.  Apparently the blast kicks
>> out a mass of material that then condenses into the many moons.  Each of
>> these mirrors the original formation of the sun and its system.  I am
>> confident that some of the early moons found themselves ejected by their
>> brothers on occasion.
>>
>>  If you are curious, you can load Linux in parallel with your standard
>> system that preserves your original operating system and data.  That is
>> what I did to be able to use whichever one I desire.  Unfortunately, I went
>> overboard and now have three Windows Vista systems and two Linux systems
>> present on this one computer.  Hey, I had the 3 hard drives available! :-)
>>
>>  Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <[email protected]>
>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 8:39 pm
>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process
>>
>>   Hi Dave,
>>
>> I tend to concur with your suspicions that the effect is most likely
>> real, this based on my own computations of simple planetary orbits. I have
>> used both single precision and double precision in my simulations. Rounding
>> off errors appeared to be negligible. As far as my own personal
>> observations went I saw little if no difference between SP vs DP.
>>
>> A science program like NOVA recently did a program on how NASA began to
>> use sophisticated gravity assist trajectories in order to shoot satellites
>> out in to further regions of the solar system. The point being, if you have
>> a lot of extra patience the trip can be performed with far less rocket fuel
>> than traditional means.
>>
>> On a related matter, a couple of months ago you may recall I posted on
>> Vort a personal discovery I made concerning what I later learned is
>> actually a derivative of Kepler’s 3rd law, that the square of the orbital
>> period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major
>> axis of its orbit.  I stumbled across a much more simplified observation of
>> the 3rd law: All orbits that share the same orbital period also share the
>> same distance in their major radius. I didn’t know at the time whether this
>> observation had been made by others, so I posted my findings out on Vortex.
>> See:
>>
>> http://personalpen.orionworks.com/kepler4thlaw.htm
>>
>> Someone eventually was kind enough to point me to a link that correlated
>> my personal observation with Kepler’s 3rd law. Yes, the observation had
>> already been made. Alas, my hope for fame (and bragging rights) had been
>> dashed. Nevertheless, it was fun to discover the fact that some personal
>> observations I had made about planetary motion based on computer
>> simulations I had personal designed turned out to be confirmed as true. I
>> still think the observation should officially be described as Kepler’s
>> honorary 4th law of planetary motion. ;-)
>>
>> PS: The Kiplinger letter for this Friday made the comment that China’s
>> recent successful rover landing on the moon will fuel some fears in
>> congress that NASA should get a little extra funding boost for planetary
>> research. It will be nothing near the glories of the space race of the
>> sixties. But a modest financial boost never the less. (I love watching the
>> movie: “The Right Stuff.”)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steven Vincent Johnson
>> svjart.OrionWorks.com
>> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>> tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
>>
>>
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