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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:35 AM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:

> Space is big.
>
> Really... really... BIG
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:09 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery.  Now, we might
>> need to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there
>> heading in random directions.  I have a suspicion that the Earth and other
>> planets and moons have been impacted by this type of debris in the distant
>> past.  Let's hope it does not occur too frequently.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Bowery <[email protected]>
>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:53 am
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process
>>
>>  As luck would have it:
>>
>>  Surprising new class of “hypervelocity stars” discovered escaping the
>> galaxy
>>
>>  http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/01/hypervelocity-stars/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>>  A few years back I also wrote a program that handled a central large
>>> star like object with another orbiting it.  I had a plan to eventually
>>> include a small number of other objects that were to interact
>>> gravitationally, but never found the time to complete the project.  I was
>>> curious about how different attraction laws effected the orbits of planets,
>>> and the answer was loud and clear; forget about anything except for the
>>> second order case!  I observed the elliptical orbits and that was about the
>>> end of that project.
>>>
>>>  I am happy to hear that you did something similar but much more
>>> extensive.  If you get a chance, take a look at that program that I was
>>> mentioning (Planets).  One item that I find particularly interesting is
>>> that you can call up a flood of small planets to interact simultaneously.
>>> The behavior that you witness is quite impressive and it makes the fact
>>> that our solar system is relatively stable seem fortunate.
>>>
>>>  I did notice that very few moons appear orbiting my planets.  My
>>> suspicion is that most of the moons seen today are a result of collisions
>>> between the main planet and smaller objects.  Apparently the blast kicks
>>> out a mass of material that then condenses into the many moons.  Each of
>>> these mirrors the original formation of the sun and its system.  I am
>>> confident that some of the early moons found themselves ejected by their
>>> brothers on occasion.
>>>
>>>  If you are curious, you can load Linux in parallel with your standard
>>> system that preserves your original operating system and data.  That is
>>> what I did to be able to use whichever one I desire.  Unfortunately, I went
>>> overboard and now have three Windows Vista systems and two Linux systems
>>> present on this one computer.  Hey, I had the 3 hard drives available! :-)
>>>
>>>  Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <[email protected]>
>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 8:39 pm
>>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process
>>>
>>>   Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> I tend to concur with your suspicions that the effect is most likely
>>> real, this based on my own computations of simple planetary orbits. I have
>>> used both single precision and double precision in my simulations. Rounding
>>> off errors appeared to be negligible. As far as my own personal
>>> observations went I saw little if no difference between SP vs DP.
>>>
>>> A science program like NOVA recently did a program on how NASA began to
>>> use sophisticated gravity assist trajectories in order to shoot satellites
>>> out in to further regions of the solar system. The point being, if you have
>>> a lot of extra patience the trip can be performed with far less rocket fuel
>>> than traditional means.
>>>
>>> On a related matter, a couple of months ago you may recall I posted on
>>> Vort a personal discovery I made concerning what I later learned is
>>> actually a derivative of Kepler’s 3rd law, that the square of the orbital
>>> period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major
>>> axis of its orbit.  I stumbled across a much more simplified observation of
>>> the 3rd law: All orbits that share the same orbital period also share the
>>> same distance in their major radius. I didn’t know at the time whether this
>>> observation had been made by others, so I posted my findings out on Vortex.
>>> See:
>>>
>>> http://personalpen.orionworks.com/kepler4thlaw.htm
>>>
>>> Someone eventually was kind enough to point me to a link that correlated
>>> my personal observation with Kepler’s 3rd law. Yes, the observation had
>>> already been made. Alas, my hope for fame (and bragging rights) had been
>>> dashed. Nevertheless, it was fun to discover the fact that some personal
>>> observations I had made about planetary motion based on computer
>>> simulations I had personal designed turned out to be confirmed as true. I
>>> still think the observation should officially be described as Kepler’s
>>> honorary 4th law of planetary motion. ;-)
>>>
>>> PS: The Kiplinger letter for this Friday made the comment that China’s
>>> recent successful rover landing on the moon will fuel some fears in
>>> congress that NASA should get a little extra funding boost for planetary
>>> research. It will be nothing near the glories of the space race of the
>>> sixties. But a modest financial boost never the less. (I love watching the
>>> movie: “The Right Stuff.”)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Steven Vincent Johnson
>>> svjart.OrionWorks.com
>>> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>>> tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/
>>>
>>>
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