Nanoplasmonics can explain tritium production as well as helium production.
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Axil,
>
> NAE "traps" seem to exist in many forms. DGT seems to have fabricated
> "magnetic" traps facilitated by Nano-antennae, which is what you are
> referencing. Meulenberg-Sinha in their Extended Lochon elaborate on
> electrostatic traps initiated by phonons emanating from linear defects (or
> "Nano-cracks"). Even in Ed's theory there is a variety of "trap", wherein
> the walls of the NAE become sufficiently loaded with charge so to
> facilitate the formation and "trapping" of Hydroton chains. There is no
> monopoly on "trap" methodology it would appear.
>
> As far as Shoulders goes, again, the EVO does not explain He4 or tritium.
> I think it may contribute to the overall reaction output as a secondary or
> tertiary reaction, and may in fact be the reason we see transmutations with
> no radioactive products. But we have to figure out whether deuterium or
> tritium is produced in NiH before we jump to any real conclusions.
>
> As far as Ed's objection that the EVO is only created in spark discharge
> plasma, Shoulders also speculates EVO in wet-systems is formed through
> sono-luminescent bubble ejections striking the cathode. So I'm not sure
> that objection is all that valid, because theoretically EVO could form in
> standard electrolysis PdD. But again it in no way accounts for He4 or
> tritium in these systems (and neither does hot fracto-fusion account for
> these ash either).
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken Shoulders has captured the fundament LENR reaction in a experimental
>> picture he took.
>>
>> In more detail, a picture of the dark mode localized magnetic traps (LMT)
>> can be found in the Ken Shoulders paper on Figure 5 and 6 on page 4
>> sited in this vortex post  as follows:
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg80263.html
>>
>> Let us discuss this
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *I also wonder if you will cover Ken Shoulders discovery of
>>> transmutation in spark production*
>>>
>>> I continue to wonder how EVO factors into LENR, if at all. Shoulders has
>>> observed that for whatever reason his experiments do not produce
>>> radioactive elements, similar to LENR transmutation results. Now
>>> unfortunately, like all vacuum energy hypotheses, EVO does not explain the
>>> Heat/Helium correlation nor tritium production in PdD. Once we know whether
>>> deuterium and tritium are being produced in NiH, we'll be better able to
>>> predict the relevance of EVO in that system.
>>>
>>> I suspect that there are about 3-4 different types of reactions
>>> intermingling in all systems. The main reaction is some kind of cluster
>>> fusion phenomenon that produces the nuclear level excess heat and
>>> dissipates nuclear products slowly through photons and phonons. The
>>> secondary and tertiary phenomenon may include Cavitation, Casmir Forces,
>>> EVO, and/or Fracto-Fusion. All speculation of course.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One manifestation of the LENR reaction that your theoretical thinking
>>>> has been very weak on is the explanation of the Rossi reactor meltdown when
>>>> high temperature material can melt at temperatures in excess of 2000C.
>>>>
>>>> Will you now attempt to explain how this high heat event can occur,
>>>> and explain the details of how this particular reaction can happen?
>>>>
>>>> I believe that the extremes of a reaction can reveal the detailed
>>>> essence of the reaction.
>>>>
>>>> I also wonder if you will cover Ken Shoulders discovery of
>>>> transmutation in spark production as well as transmutation produced in the
>>>> proton 21 experiment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Edmund Storms 
>>>> <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Axil, this insight will be provided in a book that will take my first
>>>>> book, written in 2007, to the present and show how the observations have
>>>>> been explained and how they can be better explained without conflict with
>>>>> what is known. Unfortunately, so many different opinions exists in the
>>>>> field, no one would believe what I propose without the complete evidence
>>>>> only a book can provide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Too many attempts at creating a theory are based on pure imagination
>>>>> without any relationship to reality or to what is actually observed. 
>>>>> People
>>>>> simply do not read the literature. This is understandable because about
>>>>> 2000 papers must be found and read, which is a full time job.  Enough
>>>>> information is now available to make rejection of most theories possible
>>>>> and to identify where the unique mechanism functions in the process.
>>>>> Nothing about the process conflicts with what is known. The unique
>>>>> mechanism is new and I predict the full understanding will warrant a Nobel
>>>>> prize by someone in the distant future.  The best analogy to past
>>>>> discoveries would be the realization by Pauli that a neutrino-like 
>>>>> particle
>>>>> existed based on how the energy of beta decay was found to be less than 
>>>>> the
>>>>> required mass-energy change. Until then, people had no clue such a 
>>>>> particle
>>>>> was possible.  In the case of LENR, a new force is revealed that is hidden
>>>>> in plain sight in exactly the same way.  A person only needs to know where
>>>>> to look.
>>>>>
>>>>> My book will describe my path to a solution. Of course, this will open
>>>>> the door to another rejection event by all the theoreticians and everyone
>>>>> who thinks they know how the effect works. But, then the book will speak
>>>>> for itself without my having to waste time in endless debate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed Storms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in the process of studying all the explanations and comparing
>>>>>> them to what is known in LENR and in general science. The failure to make
>>>>>> progress in explaining LENR is easy to see and a clear path to the 
>>>>>> correct
>>>>>> explanation is becoming obvious, at least to me.  The problem has a
>>>>>> solution if you know where to look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure that all here want to get a preview of this emerging
>>>>>> solution. Is it possible to reveal to us a preview?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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