Papp's patents are invalid.  Those "skilled in the art" could not use his
patents for beneficial use.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Joe Papp invented and patented the technology that extracts power from
> water when stimulated by a spark discharge, with the water containing
> various chemical elements as catalysts.
>
> This energy from spark activated water can drive an energy conversion
> device specifically an engine or be used as an explosive.
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/2pappats.htm#3670494
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> The preferred distance between the two activating cells may vary from ¼
> inch to ¾ inch. It is important however that *the spark gap 31 of the
> electrode assembly extend slightly below the bottom of the two activating
> cells so that when the cylinder or chamber is in its collapsed or minimum
> volume position, the spark gap extends into the aqueous medium of
> de-oxygenated water in the bottom of the chamber. Similarly, it is
> desirable that the extreme lower ends of the activating cells contact or
> are in very close proximity to the water in the bottom of the chamber when
> the chamber is in its collapsed position. *
>
> Many virtually instantaneous radiations, reactions, changes in energy
> levels, changes in direction of radiations due to electron charges absorbed
> by the collector plate and electromagnetic field effects, luminescence and
> fluorescence, photon electronic absorption and emission, endothermic
> resultants caused by the release of chlorine from the water, exothermic
> results caused by discharges between the points of the gap, etc., take
> place in the chamber. *The reversible reactions are controlled by the
> selection of the atomic constituents of the charge and activating cells and
> a unique supply of electrical energy.* One form of such control system,
> adapted for use with any multiple of two variable volume chambers herein
> before described, is shown in Fig. 4.
>
>
> This technology is now open source with the patents of Jo Papp expiring
> many years ago. Isn't Mills using preexisting intellectual property?
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Mike Carrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I’m a long-standing observer/participant  in Vortex, CMN S and the former
>> Hydrino Study Group, and now the Society for Classical Physics [moderated
>> by Dr, Farrell with Dr. Mills as a participant.] For what it’s worth, I
>> have shaken hands with both Mills and Fleischmann. I think I can give some
>> perspective on the current discussion. Mills’ back-story  includes study at
>> MIT where he gained new insight into the physics of accelerated electrons
>> which led to his Orbitsphere model and the possibility of “sub-ground”
>> states induced by the **close proximity** of energy holes presented by
>> catalysts. Mainstream physics teaches a “ground state” of **isolated**
>> hydrogen atoms. The “Resonant Transfer” reactions postulated and
>> experimentally verified by Mills requires the **close proximity** of an
>> energy hole receptor of specific magnitudes to effect a **non-radiative
>> energy transfer** from the H atom, destabilizing it, which then shrinks
>> into the hydrino state. In that moment, the H atom is no longer *
>> *isolated**.
>>
>>
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>> In Mills’ current work, the favored hydrino state is H[1/4];
>> spectroscopic signatures of lower states have been seen. The energy release
>> is measured at 200 times the energy required to produce an isolated H atom.
>> Mills’ task has been to find a means to utilize this energy on a commercial
>> scale. The above are not speculations, but based on experiments done with
>> instruments calibrated to national standards by a staff which includes six
>> Ph.D.s and independent laboratories. Mills’ experiments have included
>> liquid, gas, and solid phases. The solid fuels include compounds of
>> inexpensive materials when heated create the catalytic conditions for H
>> atoms also in the molecule to transition to the hydrino state: hence CIHT-
>> Catalyst  Induced Hydrino Transition.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is the invention of  master chemist.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mills has been supported by $[tens of millions] from private investors
>> over a period of some 20 years. He is under no obligation to publish, but
>> his publication record is exemplary, with over 90 Journal papers, three
>> books available as free downloads from the BLP website. He has an
>> obligation to protect his investors with a strong patent position. A irony
>> is that his major discovery is world-changing but is a natural phenomenon
>> which cannot be patented as such. This is typical of ‘chemical’ patents.
>> His patent disclosers are descriptive of many possible strategies and
>> ingredients [to catch any copiers] while concealing in plain sight the
>> optimum path which s disclosed to licensees. Mills has shown “reduction to
>> practice” by frequent posting on his website technical papers at each stage
>> of his progress. One might see these as ‘field notes’ which with refinement
>> wind up in juried technical journals listed on the website. Summary and
>> tutorial information makes its way into the Grand Unified Theory of
>> Classical Physics, available as a free download form the website.
>>
>>
>>
>> As of the preset writing, the  BLP website is in a very fluid state,
>> which has led to misunderstandings by participants of Vo and CMNS to jump
>> to conclusions, but others to dig in and do homework. The Home Page is
>> current and contains links to relevant papers and the patent disclosure.
>> The rest covers an earlier embodiment of CIHT with excellent validation
>> reports. BLP is revising he website and has promised a demonstration of the
>> new device on Jan. 28 to a restricted audience. Even that is not the whole
>> system, for it will not include the magnetohydrodynamic cryogenic output
>> module.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mills chooses his words carefully, and even apparently radical statements
>> have an observational base. He must present a positive outlook to keep his
>> investors happy without compromising the growing patent position. The
>> current device is a compact machine to feed a series of fuel pills to a
>> reaction chamber and to recharge the pills with ordinary water and reuse
>> them. The reaction chamber zaps the pills with a arc discharge which
>> excites them into a reaction state which includes transition of H to
>> H[1/4]. The time scale of this reaction is extremely short. Expressed in
>> watts, the pulse is easily in the megawatt range as stated in the press
>> release. Capturing this energy with a MHD module and converting it to 60 Hz
>> AC will be another remarkable exercise, but such is within the state of the
>> art of electric power technology.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are two paths ahead for BKLP CIHT technology: domestic appliance
>> and industrial and motive resource. Both create electrical output from any
>> water source, utilize cheap materials, and create zero pollution. Patents
>> expire; eventually this technology can be utilized by any industrialized
>> nation.
>>
>>
>>
>> The familiar Bohr planetary model of the atom has been very useful, but
>> on close inspection has very serious problems. Mills’ Orbitsphere model
>> with spheres of zero thickness of charge orbiting in great circle paths and
>> make one’s brain creak. In past years there have been savage  attacks on
>> that model, but Mills has given a detailed derivation which has silenced
>> his most savage critic. A byproduct of that model is molecular modeling
>> software for very complex molecules which give accurate results with very
>> modest computer resources. It is marketed by Millsian and is finding
>> rapidly growing acceptance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike CarrellS
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