I am guessing there is some sort transition state (of slightly higher energy) that must be overcome before the hydrogen atom can fall below the ground state into a hydrino state. If an input of energy was not required hydrinos would form spontaneously.
Harry On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > I cannot yet understand why a 12,000 amp arc is required to build hydrinos > in the Solid Fuel-Catalyst-Induced-Hydrino-Transition (SF-CIHT) device. > These electrons are lower in energy then most when holes from a catalyst > remove energy from them. And when their energy gets really low then fusion > happens. There seems to be a logical disconnect here. > > On the other hand in the nanopasmonic theory, the arc builds nanoparticles > out of cooling plasma after arc discharge. This nanoparticle explanation > seems like a better explanation to me. > > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike Carrell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dave, Mills cites Newton, Maxwell and Einstein as reference for his >> classical theory. QM had its origin in the “ultraviolet catastrophe” of 19 >> th century physics. Accelerated electrons must radiate, according to >> theory. Orbiting electrons continuously accelerate; there for they should >> radiate. A heated black body has a well define spectrum – the energy does >> not radiate in an ultraviolet flash. To resolve this problem, it was >> assumed that radiation could occur only at specific wavelengths. Upon this >> foundation an edifice was created which has many problems which theorists >> simply get used to. >> >> >> >> Mills study with Haus at MIT led him to new criteria for non-radiation >> based on the orbitsphere model and the work of Maxwell. It also led him to >> the possibility of extracting energy from hydrogen atoms by catalysis, >> which he has demonstrated many times. GUTCP is Mills’ attempt to apply his >> insight to the great problems of physics. I expect that it will be debated >> for decades, possibly leading to new insights. >> >> >> >> Mike Carrell >> >> >> >> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:37 PM >> >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement >> >> >> >> http://phys.org/news/2014-01-einstein-wrong.html >> >> >> >> Why Einstein will never be wrong >> >> >> >> A new theory does not replace a old theory, in improves it. Einstein >> improved the old theory of gravity. But we still use the old theory because >> it is valid in its own context. >> >> >> >> Mills cannot replace the quantum dynamics, he must replace it with an >> improved theory that leads to new insights into the quantum world. The old >> theory of quantum mechanics is still valid its own context, but Mills >> should only add to it. >> >> >> >> This is why Heisenberg and quantum mechanics will never be wrong. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Mike Carrell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dave, I am happy that you are digging in the right places. I’m no expert >> in this area. I suggest you join the Society for Classical Physics, >> moderated by Dr. John Farrell [a former mentor of Mills]. Mils monitors >> this forum and frequently makes terse, cogent comments. Mills asserts that >> his **classical physics** can do everything better than Quantum >> Mechanics. I am sure this point will be argued for decades. Read the >> introductory sections of Vol. 1 of GUTCP. The SCP is a place for those who >> do homework, not just hacking with misunderstanding. >> >> >> >> Mike Carrell >> >> >> >> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:19 AM >> >> >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement >> >> >> >> Mills states: >> >> >> >> *The BEC is incorrectly interpreted as a single large atom having a >> corresponding probability wave function of quantum mechanics.* Since >> excitation >> occurs in units of ¥ in order of to conserve angular momentum as shown >> previously for electronic (Chapter 2), vibrational (Chapter 11), rotational >> (Chapter 12), and translational excitation (Chapter 3) and Bose Einstein >> statistics arise from an underlying deterministic physics (Chapter 24), >> this state >> comprised of an ensemble of individual atoms is predicted classically >> using known equations [110]. As in the case of the coherent state of >> photons in a >> laser cavity (Chapter 4), the coherency of the *BEC actually disproves >> the inherent Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle *(HUP) of quantum >> mechanics since >> the atomic positions and energies are precisely determined >> simultaneously. Furthermore, it is possible to form a BEC comprising >> molecules in addition to >> atoms [111] wherein the molecules lack zero order vibration in >> contradiction to the HUP. The classical physics underlying Bose Einstein >> statistics was >> covered in the Statistical Mechanics section. >> >> >> >> These are some of my favorite ideas wahed away by Mills theory. >> >> >> >> >> >> It must be possible under Mills theory to form a BEC out of ground state >> hydrinos. Are there ground state hydrinos? These things are Atoms( bosons) >> aren't they? Let 's see an experiment that produces a hydrino BEC and look >> for absolute certainty and determinism. That would be something to see. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:48 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> I honestly hope that Mills has come up with a new theory that eliminates >> the probabilities of quantum mechanics. Do I read that correctly, or does >> his theory still allow for quantum like unknowns? >> >> It would seem that much of the recent quantum computing, etc. fairly well >> establishes that qbits exist. What is your take on them? >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Carrell <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 18, 2014 9:50 pm >> Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement >> >> Beauty indeed comes from truth, ad Mills’ GUTCP is very beautiful. >> >> >> >> What is easily missed is the tradition that a pioneer in science should >> carefully document his discovery so others can follow, and that he should >> address the principal features of accepted knowledge if his discovery >> impacts those features. This **is** what GUTCP is all about. Many have >> attempted a GUT and failed, including Einstein. An introduction and the >> orbitsphere derivation are in Vol.1, along with much else. Experimental >> evidence for hydrinos is outlined in the Technical Presentation on the >> website, with details in journal papers. >> >> >> >> The salient beautiful feature of Mills’ work is that he has a consistent >> system of mathematical description over 85 orders of magnitude using only >> measured constants. This supersedes the complexities of Quantum Mechanics, >> which has been fashionable for the last century. Acceptance of Mills’ work >> may be quite gradual. Einstein, for example got his Nobel Prize not or >> Relativity, but for earlier elucidation of the photoelectric effect. >> >> >> >> Mike Carrell >> >> >> >> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]?>] >> *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:16 PM >> *To:* vortex-l >> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:BLP's announcement >> >> >> >> Beauty comes from truth. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:47:17 -0500: >> Hi, >> [snip] >> >> >We must accept that hydrinos exist because Mills has experimentally >> >demonstrated them. But we do not need to accept the 1700 pages of theory >> >that Mill uses to explain them. There are other explanations that are >> >easier to swallow. >> >> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;) >> >> >> > >> >http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5194v1.pdf >> > >> >Fractional spin and charge is a result of delocalization of the electron >> in >> >strongly correlated systems. >> > >> > >> > >> >The spin and charge seem to wander away from the electron in condensed >> >matter systems do to wave function sharing among many electrons. >> > >> > >> > >> >It is well known, this fractional spin and charge causes problems in >> >chemistry associated with the dissociation of molecular ions, >> >polarizabilities, barrier heights, magnetic properties, fundamental >> >band-gaps and strongly-correlated systems. >> > >> > >> > >> >Could what Mills sees is a electron delocalization condition in a >> strongly >> >correlated chemical system? >> > >> > >> > >> >The paper above lays the conditions for fractional spins, charge and >> >orbitals. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 4:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:38:39 -0500: >> >> Hi, >> >> [snip] >> >> >> >> I meant individual atoms, and I realize that clusters would probably >> have >> >> somewhat different energy levels, however it would be very >> coincidental if >> >> these >> >> exactly matched Hydrino energy levels. >> >> The author of the paper on IRH, that has previously been mentioned on >> this >> >> list, >> >> claims that it has only one level, whereas the Hydrino has over a >> hundred. >> >> >> >> >Don't you mean to say that Rydberg clusters don't have multiple energy >> >> >levels and characteristic transition energies, which are seen in >> Hydrino >> >> >experiments? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:26:06 -0500: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >How does Mills theory distinguish been orbitals in a atom verses >> >> orbitals >> >> >> >in small atomic Rydberg cluster of 10 atoms or less. I say the >> Mills >> >> >> >experiments can't. >> >> >> [snip] >> >> >> Rydberg atoms don't have multiple energy levels and characteristic >> >> >> transition >> >> >> energies, which are seen in Hydrino experiments. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> >> >> >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Robin van Spaandonk >> >> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. >> Department. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. >> Department. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. >> Department. >> > >
