reference:

http://antapex.org/it_15.pdf

http://www.earthtech.org/publications/davis_STAIF_conference_1.pdf


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Fran, I think you might want to look into negative energy production.*
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> *In a previous post titled "squeezed light". I have explained that the NAE
> produces squeezed light based on the up and down shifting of light
> frequencies seen in the photons constrained in an optical cavity.*
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> *Squeezed light is one of the mechanisms that are cited as the origin for
> negative energy production. This zone of negative energy is a volume where
> vacuum energy is reduced to a value that lower than is typically found in
> the ordinary space and the Casmir force is reduced or completely removed.*
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> *In this volume, light may exceed its constant value because in this zone
> the electrical and magnetic properties of the vacuum are reduced, and a
> space time worm hole may develop. I am just following the dots.*
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> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Roarty, Francis X <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>  Yes, Ed it sounds strange but my position has always been based on a
>> caveat to COE that says random motion of gas can never be exploited.. IMHO
>> these gas atoms are translated via the Ni geometry and will normally return
>> to ground state unexploited as their local  geometry changes with random
>> motion, the caveat I am suggesting  becomes an option when we heavily load
>> the Ni geometry with gas such that the fractional h atoms exiting the
>> geometry do not have the room to return to normal  ground state which by
>> itself still gains you nothing but which opens the door for all these
>> different theories by accumulating these fractional atoms seeking to return
>> to ground state. I am keeping an open mind to ALL the various theories for
>> energy creation but my reason for promoting Arto's theory was wrt his
>> perspective on Casimir geometry and the way he illustrates the field
>> turning to propel the gas  atoms down into these smaller regions where they
>> appear to be lower than ground state.. although not using the same language
>> as I it appears he is coming to the same conclusions as to the originating
>> source of the energy.. I am not too fond of the "neutral atoms"  he is
>> suggesting but I think he has a better handle than most on what is setting
>> the stage.
>>
>> Fran
>>
>> *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2014 12:06 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Cc:* Edmund Storms
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Higgs and LENR
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>>
>> Fran, do you realize how strange this explanation sounds? The H has to
>> climb over a Coulomb barrier having a charge of 28. We know how hard
>> getting over a change of 1 is, so how is this barrier overcome so easily?
>> Second, each Ni nucleus in the sea of Ni would have to experience the role
>> of the so called catalyst. This magic catalyst would have to move from Ni
>> to Ni as each was converted to Cu because apparently the magic catalyst is
>> not able to add H to copper or apparently to any thing else. Each small
>> particle of Ni would have to contain the magic catalyst and a large
>> fraction of the Ni would have to be converted to Cu in order to account for
>> the energy being claimed. Common sense is violated! Can people please
>> consider the obvious and necessary consequences before applying pure
>> imagination? In addition, we have no evidence that Cu is produced. Rossi
>> even has withdrawn this claim.
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>>
>> Ed Storms
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>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:
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>> Just saw this:
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>> http://ecatsuomi.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/arto-lauri-i-will-take-on-how-the-e-cat-works/
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>> pix http://ecatsuomi.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/arto_lauri_proposal1.png
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>> I think Arto is very close if not exactly on target with this theory for
>> the ecat.. IMHO he defines the fractional hydrogen as neutral wrt the Ni
>> atom where I would say they are relativistic and held this way by the bulk
>> of loaded gas occupying the unrelativistic space that prevents the
>> fractional hydrogen from translating back to normal as the suppressing
>> geometry is  left behind via random motion ..this pressure then discounts
>> the barrier and allows the  dilated atom to slip "behind" the Ni atom  on
>> temporal coordinate and may be why this effect requires heavy loading such
>> that the fractional atom doesn't have opportunity to slip back into normal
>> ground state anywhere in the surrounding region... accumulating hydrinos that
>> are denied the opportunity to return to normal after having left the
>> geometry that caused their condition.
>>
>> Fran
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