Bob and Jones,

The LENR reaction is KNOWN to produce radiation. However, this radiation has too low an energy for most to get out of the device. The main radiation is photon, which is the only way LENR can dissipate the energy, and this is hidden in the apparatus. Proposing novel and imagined processes is unnecessary. Yes, the source of heat is from H fusion which I propose makes D. It is not from transmutation. This process can be explained very simply without using novel assumptions. The ONLY unknown requiring assumptions is HOW the energy is dissipated as low-energy photons. The unknown is not in what happens but how it happens. We need to discuss the HOW.

Ed Storms
On Feb 2, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

                From: Bob Higgins
                
                The Demron specification says that it reduces the 662 keV
gamma from 137Cs by only 1% (not an attenuation factor of .01, an
attenuation factor of 0.99; I.E. almost no attenuation) which would be
expected.

Yes, this material is not very effective for shielding gammas - at least for the type of reaction (proton addition) which is suggested. Furthermore, the
alternative claim of some kind of leak-free photon attenuation or
thermalization of gammas is a joke. No way.

In short, by now it should be obvious to everyone who follows LENR that
there are three important factors to rationalize.

1)      The operative reaction does not produce gammas ab initio, nor even
bremsstrahlung (and therefore cannot be related to a known nuclear reaction)
2)      The Hagelstein explanation, or a version of it, where energy is
released in staggered small packets, could apply but it is an extreme long shot - as even Hagelstein acknowledge that this is a violation of CoE and
could never happen without some gamma leakage.
3)      A new kind of nuclear reaction involving hydrogen, previously
unknown or under-appreciated in physics as being exothermic, is at the core
of LENR.

Logically, #3 seems to be the only valid choice from my perspective - with the proviso that it could involve inner electron orbitals in some way, and thus be related to ZPE as the energy source (since ZPE is very relevant to
electron dynamics in atoms) without the necessity for mass -> energy
conversion.

Jones

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