I thought the justifications for these mechanical over-unity machines came
from some kind of non-conservation during JERK (the derivative of
acceleration) and the machines were designed to produce jerk.  Does anyone
else remember the justification based on non-conservation during jerk?

Perhaps during jerk, angular momentum can be exchanged with linear momentum
or something.  I don't remember the argument.

Bob

On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> wrote:

>  As I found out some years ago when I spent a couple of months on this,
> whatever system you come up with, when you actually go through the maths it
> comes up with the same answer, and that is that you cannot extract energy
> from the rotation of the earth without reference to some external body.
> You can come up with complicated systems that makes the maths more
> difficult (our gyroscopes on railway tracks travelling between the pole and
> the equator was particularly 'interesting' to analyse.  I'm not sure that
> 15 years later my brain is still up to it, that why I get my son to do it),
> and that is what may have happened with the RAR machine.   Its complexity
> hides a mistake in the analysis of the forces and moments which made it
> appear that it was possible to extract energy from the earths magnetic
> field.
>

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