a.ashfield <[email protected]> wrote: The ultimate claim is that the observers are all paid and in on the fraud. > For example, I have read that the Elforsk test of the Hot Cat can't be > believed because (a) Levi is a biased friend (b) power was surreptitiously > run to the device. (c) the heat measurements were in error. (d) the > report was not peer reviewed. >
Objections such as these cannot be tested or falsified by ordinary means, so they should be ignored. I meant technical objections. The surreptitious power objection is a fantasy objection, not technical. The skeptics cannot come up with an actual, testable scenario for this, so we should ignore it. > The fact remains, the Elforsk test should have been enough to persuade > other scientists that LENR was real but it hasn't. > That is incorrect. Many scientists were persuaded -- or at le. So was the management at ELFORSK. The people in North Carolina cited the test, so evidently they were impressed. > DOE still have not changed their policy. No government organization is > talking about LENR being the solution but just about funding ITER, solar > power and wind turbines. > Government agencies will be the last to admit cold fusion is real. The DoE in particular has gone out an a limb denying it. We do not need them at this stage. > I haven't seen one article in the mainstream press that states > categorically LENR is proven. > Again, they will be among the last to be convinced. The mass media never takes chances or does controversial things, or things the may look foolish. They did not even take sides in the recent debate over creationism between Nye and Ham. They will not do that because a large fraction of the U.S. population agrees with the young earth creationists, and the mass media outlets cannot afford to alienate people and lose customers. > I tend to believe Rossi's comment that it will only be accepted after > commercial units are out in the market place. > Probably, but now that there is serious funding, it is more likely that commercial units will be made. - Jed
