Jed Rothwell <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=from:%22Jed+Rothwell%22> Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:00:37 -0800 <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=date:20140207>

a.ashfield <[email protected]> wrote:

Let it run for a long time on a glass table."

There is always some claim.  It has a battery hidden in it etc.


"It is easy to eliminate that objection. Weigh the entire device and compute
how much energy it could hold if the entire device is a battery.

I am not sympathetic to inventors who will not make such an obvious
demonstration and evaluation because they say there will be "objections"
like this. It is easy to overrule such objections."


The ultimate claim is that the observers are all paid and in on the fraud. For example, I have read that the Elforsk test of the Hot Cat can't be believed because (a) Levi is a biased friend (b) power was surreptitiously run to the device. (c) the heat measurements were in error. (d) the report was not peer reviewed.

The fact remains, the Elforsk test should have been enough to persuade other scientists that LENR was real but it hasn't. DOE still have not changed their policy. No government organization is talking about LENR being the solution but just about funding ITER, solar power and wind turbines. I haven't seen one article in the mainstream press that states categorically LENR is proven. I tend to believe Rossi's comment that it will only be accepted after commercial units are out in the market place.

There is no scientific explanation for the RAR device. Apart from being a spectacular machine that looks worthy of being in a museum, the only reason to believe it works is the thought that no one would build a second machine if it didn't. We will just have to wait and see.

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