On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:51 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> The muon experiments show time dilation in operation.   Once I calculated
> the equivalent velocity of the muon assuming that time dilation did not
> exist.  I obtained a velocity of IIRC about 10 times the speed of light.
> Every thing fit into place regarding the distance traveled in a standard
> lifetime of a muon.  Only one factor could not be made to fit.  That
> happened to be the measured velocity of the muons.  The distance was known
> but the time did not match with the calculated velocity.
>
> A similar problem arises when one looks closely at an accelerator.  The
> LHC is a perfect example where the time required to make a revolution is
> well known.  I again could calculate an assumed velocity based upon the
> energy.  I came to the conclusion that time dilation must be real according
> to what each observer determines.
>

Ok, so time dilation must have occurred for the muon, it moved through the
reference frame of the lab and lasted longer because of it.
But the Muon was not conscious, carried no instrumentation and surely had
no evidence to offer to indicate that it observed time was seeming to occur
more swiftly for it than for the lab.

Imagine 2 Muons, one moving at a high percentage of the speed of light
around another.
If you move with the orbiting muon SR would have us believe that this muon
would die before the one in the center.

If you sit with the muon in the center, it should be seen to die first.

Of course no researcher has been willing to hop into the LHC and  settle
this time dilation dilemma, pussies.

Time dilation is expected, I misnamed this thread, this is not the
impossibility of time dilation in a gravitational field, or the
impossibility of time dilation due to movement through a preferred frame.

It addresses the impossibility of equal opportunity time dilation.

John

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