Ivanpah was obsolete before it started up.

$2.2B  Boondoggle

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/obama-backed-israeli-solar-project-flounders-california

http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/02/nevadas-massive-solar-plant-death-ray-birds/358244/

Even Jed's robots can't save it, if they existed :)

I agree on the nuclear.






On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> The new rankings of the World's "smartest" companies is out. I was
> wondering
> about alternative energy and energy in general. Is there any "smart"
> company
> in energy sector - one which takes into account ecological costs and real
> taxpayer subsidies to nuclear and coal?
>
> Turns out, the largest solar power plant in the World,  built by the top
> ranked energy company in the World (according to MIT) which is named
> BrightSource - was also in the News as well - as the plant started up on
> time last week.
>
> BrightSource is located in Oakland no less (maybe there is a "there,
> there").
>
> This is not photovoltaics, but 3-axis mirrored thermal - and the solar heat
> can be stored. BrightSource's 370+ megawatt facility is the first and more
> of this type are on the way. It is claimed that although the initial
> facility capital cost was pretty high, it is nevertheless competitive with
> nuclear, based on real quotes and lack of need to refuel every 6 years.
>
> Do not fall for the disinformation of the nuclear industry on low cost.
> None
> of nuclear would not have been possible without large government loan
> guarantees - and the one to BrightSource partially makes up for other solar
> loans gone sour. Many nuclear loans went sour too. BTW - the tax credit and
> loan guarantee is less than a comparable nuclear plant when one includes
> the
> real adjusted cost of fuel enrichment to the taxpayer. That is a massive
> hidden cost.
>
> To be fair, there is controversy of course. Energy is political. The WSJ -
> which has sadly degenerated into a Murdoch political tool on ecological
> issues - even to the extent of supporting coal - quotes incorrect cost
> numbers for this facility (and grossly overblown harm to wildlife)... and
> the numbers show that this kind of solar power will cost a third of what
> consumers are now paying in California. Three more facilities are underway,
> which certainly rankles the fossil fuel industry.
>
> Jones
>
> BTW from a California perspective, for those who wonder why consumers here
> do not trust nuclear in general, and will pay more for solar - here is what
> the Nuclear industry does not want you to consider: the infamous Rancho
> Seco
> disaster.
>
> This was suppose to be a Gigawatt level - Babcock and Wilcox designed
> pressurized water reactor plant which achieved initial criticality in 1974.
> Four years later, a power supply failure led to steam generator "dry-out".
> This could have been a mini TMI, Brown's Ferry or even Fukushima - but
> fortunately without the perfect storm of Fuku. Few appreciate how close
> Rancho Seco was to a gigantic catastrophe.
>
> The plant operated from 1975 to 1989 but had a lifetime capacity average of
> only 39%. That's right over 14 years of operation - the net output was less
> than 40% of faceplate!
>
> Rancho Seco was closed by public referendum in 1989 (despite its operating
> license being good until 2008). Electric power from that plant cost more
> than solar, even without the extreme risk of catastrophe - and when
> everything is considered, there will probably never be another nuclear
> plant
> in this state until LENR is available.
>
>
>

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