On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Ed: > Rather than suggesting any idea that comes to mind, the effort to identify > this mechanism must focus on what is actually observed. > > Axil: > As revealed by DGT, where does the 1.6 tesla magnetic field at 20 centimeters > from the nickel powder come from? This field increases in strength as each of > the cyclic reactions advances. > > Ed is ignoring this experimental observation as irrelevant to his view of > LENR. That is fantasy Ed.
Axil, you accept a claim for which no evidence has been presented, that has not and can not be reviewed and studied, and that contains logical conflicts. You accept this as evidence for an idea you have that is not consistent with any other observation. My approach is not fantasy, it is what is required of good science. The first step in the development of any theory is to determine what is real. You have not done this. Ed Storms > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Bob, LENR is real, it occurs in real materials, and it is caused by a > real mechanism controlled by real parameters. It is exactly like hot fusion > in this regard. Unlike hot fusion, a new mechanism is operating that is not > like what physics has accepted. Rather than suggesting any idea that comes > to mind, the effort to identify this mechanism must focus on what is actually > observed. What is observed creates limits and boundaries on what mechanisms > are possible. Eventually, all mechanisms but one will be eliminated and at > that point LENR will be understood. The process of finding this single > mechanism can be speeded up by eliminating a lot of proposed mechanisms right > from the start. For example, any proposed mechanism that conflicts with the > laws of thermodynamics can be rejected without further consideration. Of > course, this requires these laws be understood and accepted, but that is a > different issue. > > This is like looking for gold. Simply wondering the landscape and pointing at > every mountain as a possible location of the gold vein is not useful. The > landscape needs to be studied, the geological events need to be identified, > and location of found nuggets needs to be considered. Only then can the > buried gold be found by eliminating all the regions where it cannot be > located. I'm attempting to do this but I find very little interest in this > approach. > > Ed Storms > > > On Mar 1, 2014, at 3:16 PM, Bob Cook wrote: > >> Ed-- >> >> Regarding your comment copied from below--"No amount of discussion about >> magnetic fields, hidden electrons, particle spin, etc is useful unless it >> can show exactly what needs to be done to cause the reaction to occur in the >> first place. " --I agree. However, you seem to always take on a discussion >> to find the cause of the reaction considering basic physical parameters that >> you seem to recognize as real. >> >> Bob >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Axil Axil >> To: vortex-l >> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 1:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" >> >> As I have posted repeatedly, the key to developing an active and very strong >> reaction is to provide a wide range of micro/nanoparticle sizes. This >> requirement comes from nanoplasmonic doctrine. >> >> A single sized particle does not work. >> >> For example, in the open source high school reactor (cop = 4) that does >> work, the design calls for a tungsten particle collection of varying >> diameters. >> >> >> The 5 micron micro-particles coated with nanowire is important in feeding >> power into the aggregation of smaller nanoparticles. >> >> This is how Rossi’s secret sauce fits in. Potassium nanoparticles provide >> and intermediate sized particle population to the particle ensembles. >> Hydrogen provides the smallest particle population. >> >> When there are particles of varying size clump together, and alight on the >> nickel nanowires, strong dipole motion in the micro particles drive the >> reactions in the spaces between the hydrogen nanoparticles. >> >> The bigger particles act like step-up windings in a high voltage transformer >> as power is feed to the smallest particles. >> >> If a single diameter sized nanoparticle is used, the reaction will not work. >> If only nanoparticles are use in the reaction, the reaction will not be >> strong. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote: >> Nice thought Kevin. Chris and I collaborated to see if CNT were nuclear >> active. They were not, at least when using our methods. I suspect the >> conditions in the tube are not correct to form the Hydroton. >> >> As is typical, the situation in the chemical structure is more complex than >> expected. No amount of discussion about magnetic fields, hidden electrons, >> particle spin, etc is useful unless it can show exactly what needs to be >> done to cause the reaction to occur in the first place. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> On Mar 1, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: >> >>> Wouldn't that lend itself to corroborating Ed Storms's theories about >>> cracks & the NAE? >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Frank roarty <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Jones, Yes, I agree.. the paper from Cornell re catalytic action only >>> occurring at openings and defects in nano tubes >>> >> >> >> > >
