Ed, Maybe you turned my analogy a little but I am prepared to go along with that. Yes, I can see it is uphill. However, that makes it absolutely necessary to adhere to all five steps. First you have to reapply the lipstick. Remove the vulgar and tell it all to a more subtle lipstick. Then you need to ignore the critic and avoid to make comparisons. This is because you can be sure that all the other girls will point out that until recently she has been a slut and maybe she has not changed. Once she becomes accept and free from STD she will be rather attractive and YES inheritance will be good and who cares from where? However, as you said with inheritance she can chose to chase the Noble price and not worry about money. (My ideas is then obsolete.) I agree that it would be good if the F/P announcement had been better supported at the presentation. Here is where my fear kicks in so just take it for what it is. I have the understanding of that there are numerous rectifications and proofs to dhow that this critic is the snow that fell last year. In addition a number of possible theories have been created and even if they are different they do have some common ground. To concentrate on the common ground to accept the need to eliminate one issue at the time following a clear plan with a clearly stated goal will attract new lovers with curiosity for the adventures that lay ahead. No, I do not think these investors are to be found among government bond investors. I can hear that there is an adversity against that this technology cannot be firstly a US technology. I do not think that is realistic. It will have international implications and it will distribute its benefits without concern about nationality. There is advantages in every country. The problem is that they often do not come in to play. Here we have the advantage of good communication, available capital, innovative organizations and a long standing tradition of leading technology development. We can win much in the US of the future of LENR as it stand today. We neither want or can have a monopoly. We just have to stop to believe that government or/and politicians can be of any help. It is the other way around - just see how they always have believed in LENR the day it produces a success story. I know my concept is right. I believe that this group has the knowledge. My ambition was to encourage to form the organization and the attitude to reach the deserved result more than find out who is wrong in a detail here or there.
Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650 "Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort." PJM On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > This is good advice, Lennart. But let me carry your analogy further. In > this case, the beautiful girl has the reputation for being a slut. So, not > only must she sell her beauty but also has to show she can be trusted. How > is this done when the people who spread the false rumor are still at work? > In addition, most possible suitors have no ability to check the facts or > even to understand how the rumor got started. The only way she gets chosen > is for someone to take a chance, to ask the right questions, and to listen > carefully to the answers because no one can be trusted to tell the truth. > What will likely happen is that she will inherit a fortune from China and > her reputation will no longer matter. > > Ed Storms > > On Mar 10, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > > I should probably avoid comment in this tread as the discussion includes > more physics science than I even come close to understand. However, I have > some experience from funding new businesses. I think I can provide somewhat > of another viewpoint because of that. > It goes for everything in life it has to be sold. If you want to kiss a > beautiful girl you have to sell your ability. Best if your good looks makes > her come investigating 'the goods' so you can get to show your ability and > just close the deal. This is true about any product or service. I have > limited experience of university grants but I think you guys have covered > that part rather well. My conclusion is that you are saying that politics > will be in the way regardless of the good reasons put forward and the LENR > community has no bait of political nature. (Big organization = bad dittos). > Now to the controversial part. Why is it so hard to get capital from VC's > crowd funding etc. etc.? First of all the good looks are not there. I > think it is because anyone with the resources looking in to this arena will > find more question marks and rivalry than a clear pathway to success. I > understand that some players in the market behaved less than good in the > past. To concentrate on their downside when they have received funding is > to make any new investor confused. It is like telling the girl that her > previous lover was a lousy lover and that the one who approached her > yesterday was even worse. True or untrue, how do you know? How did you get > that knowledge? The other ones have said the same about you so maybe she > ought to visit another neighborhood? Maybe this is a bad area? > I hope Ed Storms book will help sort out where we are. I personally have > no investment capacity but I know investors need help to see, which > possibilities are there and a pathway to reach success. Any hope to raise > money will require : > 1. A clear definition of the goal. (Nothing fluffy like a new era or > revolutionary - precise expectations with a realistic time table.) > 2. A list of possible obstacles. > 3. Possible solutions to overcome the obstacles. > 4. A team able to handle the obstacles. > 5. An organization able to control the team and communicate with the > investor. > My experience is that most people will agree to three of the well known > conditions and then say that the other two are not important. What was your > first thought ? Honestly" > Two more things: First, it certainly will not be an advantage to criticize > the competition rather the opposite. Second, no VC will come looking for > the opportunity. > Finally I know I am sticking out my head in a field where I have no > capacity to debate the technology or its particular problems. They are > unique at the same time as they are soooo common. I understand that there > is a big difference if one wants to get the Noble price or successfully > replace the grid, I.E.. My suggestions will probably be of little help to > get the Nobel price. > > > Best Regards , > Lennart Thornros > > www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com > lenn...@thornros.com > +1 916 436 1899 > 6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650 > > "Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a > commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort." PJM > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Mark-- >> >> I will. >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:13 PM >> *Subject:* RE: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the >> theory of everything. >> >> Bob, you need to watch The Matrix! >> >> -mark >> >> >> >> *From:* Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:09 PM >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Subject:* Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the >> theory of everything. >> >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> So be it. >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:53 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the >> theory of everything. >> >> >> >> Bob, >> Morpheus says to Neo in the movie The Matrix (1999): >> "This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take >> the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe >> whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in >> Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes." >> >> >> >> Since you like red pills that means you are in wonderland. ;-) >> Harry >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:26 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Harry-- >> >> >> >> I do not know about the blue pill or the red pill--I'm showing my age. >> However, given the choice between blue and red pills , I always choose the >> red ones, since they are easier to see when I drop them on the floor from >> my pill box. I typically don't eat blue things. >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:04 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: Replications. Formerly [Vo]:LENR a gateway into the >> theory of everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:53 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> >> wrote: >> >> Bob stated: >> >> "... we are again meeting in Alice's rabbit hole." >> >> >> >> Wrong movie Bob, think Matrices! >> >> The Blue pill or the Red pill? >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> -Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One could argue it is the same movie, since The Matrix makes some >> references to the White Rabbit and the rabbit hole ;-) >> >> >> >> Neo's apartment: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IDT3MpSCKI >> >> >> >> The red/blue pill scene: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9vGMMPM5Lg >> >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
