Jed is a libertarian. His ideas regarding personal freedom and independence
oftentimes conflict with economic priorities that minimize the bottom line
in all cases.

What might be true for Jed's affluent neighborhood may not apply in meeting
the needs of the average Indian or Greek.

A builder may reduce cost by supplying a neighborhood based power
cooperative or a regional power authority where the grid is not well
developed.

With LENR, many excellent options can be supported without regard for fuel
transport, of waste problems.

For example, a village based electrical supply system can be supported in
the middle of the African bush without much logistical support; no roads
needed.





On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:33 AM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> That makes much more sense, but I got the impression Jed has the idea of
> one in the basement of the average home.
>
> The follow up though I have is that if he heat overall does not seem to be
> sourced entirely from fusion or other nuclear sources, it seems to me that
> this is another anomaly rich device along with many other FE devices and
> not genuinely separate field.
>
> The thing that other FE devices have in common are...
> Difficulties with reproducibility
> Multiple anomalies, LENR has the products of fusion in conditions that
> should not normally produce fusion and yet the energy output does not seem
> to be supported fully by fusion.
>
> I bet there are other anomalies, but my knowledge and interest in CF/LENR
> is rather low.
>
> IMO the key to all of this is in the anomalies, things not acting in the
> normal way.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> forget Palladium, LENR is not Palladium;  When things settle down, maybe
>> nickel, Maybe tungsten, or some other transition metal, maybe iron. There
>> will be intense competition among reactor manufacturers to come up with a
>> market advantage using common and cheap structural materials, that is why
>> Palladium will never happen.
>>
>> A home co-generation system (electric power and heat) would be leased
>> from a provider with the excess power owned by the equipment provider.
>>
>> the most maintenance intensive part of the equipment would be the
>> generator. Most people will not have enough room in their house to support
>> a LENR co-generation system. Many people will still use grid power.
>>
>> LENR will mostly be used to retrofit grid based power plants.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:46 AM, John Berry <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Jed, I am really curious how you envision a cold fusion on a consumer
>>> level to work?
>>>
>>> Obviously it would need an initial power source to start the reaction,
>>> the reaction would generate heat which would need to be converted to
>>> electricity with some realistic efficiency level.
>>>
>>> Then the chemistry of the cell and the electrodes need to be kept
>>> healthy, I question how trouble free this would be.
>>>
>>> Plus if Palladium is used a rare and going to become rarer metal would
>>> be used which would impact prices.
>>>
>>> Does any cold fusion cell yet tried seem to have the plate &
>>> electrolytic endurance to keep working in anything like a home user would
>>> need?
>>>
>>> How often would someone want to get their cell serviced if it is to be
>>> cheaper than regular power? Maybe once a year tops and only if the service
>>> isn't too pricey.
>>>
>>> Additionally explosive events have occurred with blocks, obviously rare,
>>> but once there are millions of them even rare events are problematic.
>>>
>>> Some of these concerns do not apply to Rossi's version of LENR or
>>> whatever the actual source of the anomalous energy is (IMO aetheric
>>> engineering), but many still would.
>>>
>>> What kind of LENR device do you think could work for homes, cars, etc...
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> At this moment there are 8,699 customers without power in Georgia.
>>>>
>>>> http://outagemap.georgiapower.com/external/default.html
>>>>
>>>> *Active Outages:* 186 *Affected Customers:* 8,699
>>>>
>>>> Since the great 1" blizzard I have been checking periodically. I have
>>>> seldom seen fewer than 100 customers without power. I do not think it has
>>>> ever been zero.
>>>>
>>>> Small blackouts are often caused by trees and traffic accidents.
>>>>
>>>> Augusta continues to suffer more blackouts than other parts of the
>>>> state. At present it has:
>>>>
>>>> *Number of Outages:* 53
>>>> *Customers Affected:* 3,373
>>>>
>>>> Even with cold fusion I suppose on any given day in Georgia there will
>>>> be hundreds of people without power, but as I said before they will be in a
>>>> better position to borrow power from their neighbors with extension cords,
>>>> and by various other methods.
>>>>
>>>> - Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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