That should have said--Also did they measure H or H2?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cook
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Co-Netic AA and the Dirac sea
Axi and Jones--
Thanks. That's sure seems to be an indication that magnetic fields are
important in the control of the Cravens/Gimpel National Instruments Expo
experiment. They believed that they were producing He. Like Jones said it
would be nice to know if they measured He and, if so how and how much. Also
did they measure HE or HE?
Jones indicated that the energy spectrum is flat at the temperature that the
test was run. That may be true, but the driving or resonate frequencies may
be at the upper end of the frequency spectrum associated with the initiation of
the reaction and the NAE couple to the charcoal matrix. A broad band of
frequency may may make the necessary coupling more unlikely.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Co-Netic AA and the Dirac sea
The referenced article at the top of this thread as follows:
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
Axil--
Which IE article regarding magnetism are you referring to?
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Co-Netic AA and the Dirac sea
The item below is an idem of interest in the IE article regarding
magnetism.
"an empirical model by Dennis Letts was used...“A Method to Calculate
Excess Power”... predicts that the heat production is linearly proportional to
the mass of the hydrogen-containing material and the magnetic field surrounding
the mass."
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>
wrote:
From: Jed Rothwell
That is fun to read! Good experiment. Good write up.
Yes it is a fabulous, simple experiment that is ripe for both
replication
and improvement.
And it is somewhat poignant for those who have followed the field for
a
while, to mention Les Case – whose shadow looms over this experiment.
Here
is an old article from Gene:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MalloveEreproducib.pdf
… showing the spherical reactor, which turns up once again. Notably
Cravens
(IIRC) purchased the Lab gear from Case’s estate. And he is still
using
carbon of some form, as did Case. Quote:
The bulk of the material inside the active sphere is activated
charcoal
(carbon). The charcoal has a mesh of between 1350 and 2000 (micro mesh
screening of 6 to 10 microns)…. That was selected to match the 8.2
micron
peak wavelength of black body radiation at 80°C [i.e. spectral
radiance of
about 0.02 W/(cm2)]. The charcoal’s pores holding the metal alloy are
nominally 9 nm.
That is very low spectral radiance, and to say that there is any peak
at all
at this temperature is strange, as the “curve” is essentially flat.
Plus the
value seems to be off. Nevertheless, the proof is in the pudding… and
the
active sphere worked for months at substantial gain. That is the
incredible
part.
The big question I have for Dennis, or his first replicator, is what
gases
turn up in the ash after a long run?
As the active ball was cut open at the end of the Demo to show no
battery
was inside, the accumulated gases were not analyzed at NI Week. Les
Case
thought he was seeing helium but was he?
Mizuno has presented a paradigm shift with his discovery of hydrogen
showing
up in place of deuterium. Is that a trend, of a sort, now that we
have an
appreciation that it is possible? Was past evidence of
D->2H deliberately ignored, since that reaction seems so improbable
that the
experimenter ignored it for sake of his own credibility?
If the Mizuno finding were to be validated in another type of
experiment
then it may finally be possible to approach an operating theory which
will
appeal to the more hard-headed of skeptics. The skeptics I know will
never
buy into the helium spiel without some show of strong gamma photons –
due to
helium’s ubiquity… and given the recent Mizuno results – where a
former
proponent of helium is now (effectively) recanting - we may be seeing
a
major change in outlook.
Who will be the next to confirm this? Or will it die a slow death?
