In reply to  Roarty, Francis X's message of Thu, 8 May 2014 11:27:09 +0000:
Hi,
[snip]
>I disagree with this portion of your reply [snip] Since the actual source of 
>energy is likely to be
>the Hydrogen in the water, not the actual cathode metal, the volume of the
>cathode is pretty much irrelevant [/snip]   Yes the energy may come from the 
>gas but it is the lattice confinement and change in level of confinement at 
>the defects that provide the environment that liberates this normally 
>inaccessible source of energy from hydrogen - We don't have to accept ZPE, 
>hydrino or hydrotron to all agree that defects in lattice geometry, their 
>population density and their topologies allow this energy to be produced such 
>that you have to consider the hydrogen and the containment together as the 
>actual energy source so Jeds' focus on the cathode geometry as a crude metric 
>seems viable.

This would only be true if the NAE was destroyed when the reaction happened, and
were incapable of reforming. If either of these two are not true, then the
"cathode" (for want of a more general term) has to be considered to be an
"engine" and the Hydrogen has to be considered the "fuel".

You do not calculate the energy density of engines. You calculate the energy
density of fuels.

(Unless as Jed mentioned, you are stuck with the Hydrogen in the cathode, and it
is not replaceable - in which case the outlook for CF is far more restricted.)

Note however that both Rossi & Defkalion appear to use a regular supply of
external Hydrogen.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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