This is certainly not the kind of news I was hoping to hear.  We need some good 
news from the Rossi tests.  How much longer must we wait?

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Interview with Mats Lewan On E-Cat & Rossi



Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

 


Gamberale’s statements can be easily construedas declarations against interest, 
since as an agent of DGT he would be arguablybetter off financially if he never 
made those statements. . . .




The paper says DE (Defkalion Europe) is a joint venture. "This contract 
provides for the complete transfer of the DGT technology to Defkalion Europe 
(DE), an Italian company (50% DGT and 50% Mose and composed exclusively of 
Italian members of Mose [Corp.]) . . ." So he is not exactly an agent. A person 
working for a joint venture is not an agent.

The report ends by saying the DE joint venture is now defunct:

". . . DE has decided to give DGT some time to provide unequivocal evidence 
that the DGT technology was immune to the criticisms raised by DE. However 
after several months and despite continuous and constant request to provide the 
relevant documentation and/or to repeat the experiment, no answer has been 
given so far. DE has now been put out of business. Consequently, I decided to 
make public the results obtained on the DGT technology stating that the 
experimental protocol proposed by DGT is not trustworthy. . . ."


Apparently, the problem with the flow meter was that the vane inside it was 
being driven back and forth by hot water flowing in the wrong direction. The 
vane might go forward, back, and forward again with the same 1 ml of water, 
counting it three times (or more).


They managed to record a 1 L/min flow rate with the water inlet valve closed 
and the real flow rate of zero. In another null test they showed 17 kW where 
the real answer was 2.5 kW. In another test, the flow rate indicated 3 kW but 
they sparged the steam and measured ~1 kW, where input power was 1 kW.


As I have often said, the flow meter is the most problematic component in flow 
calorimetry. You must ALWAYS verify that it is working correctly, with a manual 
method. Note that Defkalion specifically forbid DE from doing this. DE set up 
to cross check the flow, and to sparge the steam, but the Defkalion engineers 
removed the equipment. That's about as damning as you can get without saying 
"these people are frauds."


For years, Defkalion has said they will publish a definitive positive report 
from an independent observer. Now, as last, we see such a definitive report. 
Unfortunately it is negative. I do not know know of any positive ones. That 
does not mean there aren't any, but I suppose Defkalion would publish one if 
they had it.


- Jed




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