The cravens ball system may be one of them, What are the others?

Look at the Piantelli system, He does not heat the hydrogen, but cooper
pairing of hydrogen does occur because two protons enter into the nickel
nucleus as witnessed by the emission of a 6 MeV proton as seen in a cloud
chamber,

Piantelli uses deuterium to stop his LENR reaction, because untreated
deuterium is NMR active.

In the Craven ball system, cooper pairing of hydrogen must occur as it does
in Piantelli's system. To prove it as Piantelli does, I suggest placing the
contents of Cravins ball into a cloud chamber and look for proton
emissions..


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Axil -- What about systems that don't make use of a cold plasma that
> generate excess heat? Are these illusory?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Chemical effects to modify the spin of hydrogen is a doorway through
>> which the LENR reaction must pass before the LENR reaction can occur.
>> Hydrogen is NMR active, its nuclear spin is non zero. A chemical reaction
>> must occur before hydrogen can undergo fusion. The spin of hydrogen must be
>> reduced to 0.
>> The transformation of hydrogen into Rydberg matter is how the spin of
>> hydrogen is made 0. This is accomplished by the production of a hydrogen
>> plasma and its subsequent cooling. A one dimensional crystal structure of
>> hydrogen dust will form in which the nuclear spin of hydrogen is reduced to
>> zero through cooper pairing.
>>
>> It is cooper paired hydrogen that can be a reaction component in the LENR
>> reaction. The LENR reaction will always accompany hydrogen plasma formation
>> either through heat or arc discharge.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, <torulf.gr...@bredband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have not yet read the book. But some of the critique here seams odd.
>>>
>>> To exaggerate it,
>>> The exes heat in the most researched systeme Pd\D are mainly caused by
>>> chemical effect and errors.
>>> If so I think there are a lesser far-reaching assumption that the
>>> results from the lesser known Ni- P/D
>>> systems also are caused by chemical effect and errors. Then the best
>>> conclusion should be that
>>> all cf phenomena are a result by chemical effect and errors.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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