We just have to put on those special glasses to see it!

Just open up that nanophasmonics introduction.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 7/22/14, 7:28 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
>
>   *From:* Ruby
>
>
> Jones, there are five different  theories that are currently isolated
> islands in a sea of perpetually prototype technology.  No one agrees on
> anything, and there is no discussion about the assumptions in each theory,
> about how those assumptions are plausible, or not, and how the twenty-five
> years of data is expressed in each of those theories.  There is no
> discussion about hypothesis, experiment, and conclusion as predictions are
> few.
>
> As an advocate, I want to see some serious discussion about these issues
> to get this thing figured out.  I don't care which theory is ultimately
> chosen.  I want a technology and some new lifestyle options!  Storms raises
> good questions. I can only hope egos are dropped, poor communication skills
> are forgiven, and the smart people in the room do something tangible to
> make LENR a reality.
>
>
>
> Yes it is frustrating but the glimmer of hope is that our deep level of
> frustration, shared by almost everyone on this list, points directly to the
> emerging answer.
>
>
>
> And - we appreciate your work as an advocate, Ruby.
>
> Thank you Jones.  I am a sucker for the underdog.  Especially one that
> could bring forward a different world paradigm.
>
>   Egos and poor communication are part of the problem which you are
> addressing. But smart people are involved, needy and smart; and with more
> data – the correct answer(s) will emerge. We are on the cusp of that in
> 2014, and thirsty for more accurate data. That there was really nothing new
> in Storm’s book, especially new data - is part of the frustration level. He
> has done such good experimental work is the past, that there was an
> expectation of a breakthrough coming from his Lab and not from his Library.
>
> I believe that the twenty-five years of data had not been properly looked
> at wholly.  Storms did that, and he was uniquely positioned to do that by
> the fact that he had been there from the start, and he had performed
> several surveys of the field over the past couple decades.  McKubre was
> right in saying that Storms probably knows more than anyone about the field
> - including new data.  So a summary from the Library is in good order.
> There are so many early results that have clues to this reaction.
>
> He is not a mathematician, nor is he a quantum mechanics expert.  He has
> tried to understand things from the ground up, and look fresh at the
> basics.  If an assumption is wrong, no amount of quantum mechanics will
> make it right.  Apply math on plausible ideas that support the data, and we
> can get somewhere.
>
> He is packaging this book and survey of theories in language that people
> outside the field can understand.  Looking at today's LENR theories, there
> are clearly holes (the unacknowledged assumptions) that turn conventional
> scientists away from this field.  When the LENR community of theoriests
> cannot face these holes, and discuss the discrepancies, how can mainstream
> science want to jump in?  Storms wants new people to start seriously
> thinking about this field, and he made a book that is logically consistent
> to do that.
>
>
>
> But that overall answer – as to which theory is correct - is an answer
> that will not please everyone, and perhaps not please anyone - since the
> correct answer will simply be something closer to “all-of-them” instead of
> “one-or-the-other.”
>
> I don't see how any of these theories can merge.  Either there is electron
> capture, or there is a BEC, or a hydroton, or .....   or not.  They are
> completely different and unrelated ideas to me.
>
>
>
> That is too glib, so let me explain. There are indeed at least five good
> theories or partial theories - more like 12 if we count “facilitating
> concepts” as a theory, of which Ed’s is but one, but they are not “isolated
> islands”. Many of them, even all of them interact, and will probably be
> shown to be partially active in the same experiment.
>
> If that is true, I don't see it. I don't see how a BEC interacts with
> low-momentum neutron creation.  I am not an expert, though.  That is why I
> talk to the scientists and they explain it to me.  Robert Godes explained
> his Quantum Fusion to me, George Miley explained his swimming electrons and
> clusters to me, and Storms has explained his hydroton to me.  Every single
> one of them had no relation to other, in their words or concepts.
>
>
>
> The good-news / bad-news for Ed Storms book is that the NAE observation
> could be among the most active, seen in almost all experiments… ! hurray !
> … but the bad news is that Storms’ further assertion of protons fusing to
> deuterium could be active in only a few ppm – almost never. If true, this
> is hurtful to Ed, who has convinced himself that he alone has this problem
> figured out. Thus he is not happy with the criticism. Same for W-L in that
> some ultra-cold neutrons are likely to be found, but their explanation is
> grossly insufficient. Same for Rossi-Focardi – in claiming nickel
> transmutation.
>
> Yes, he could be wrong.  The difference here is that his claim is
> consistent with the vast majority of data on lenr.org, and he has a
> logically consistent framework to house a dozen predictions.  Now is the
> time to test whether he is right or wrong.
>
> Perhaps you could start a thread where for each theory, the initial
> assumptions are listed, and the testable predictions made by that theory
> are listed.  That would be helpful in sifting through the facts vs.
> conjectures.
>
>
>
> Rossi is already backing-off ANY theory, including Focardi’s, since he has
> better data – not yet shared. Do not sell Rossi short. He is a cantankerous
> genius, but well-read, and Storms made a mistake is not adding an entire
> chapter on Rossi and Mills. It would not surprise me to learn that Rossi
> reads this forum. And although nickel > copper is a reaction which could
> happen occasionally, it is probably down there in the ppm range, about the
> same as Storm’s P-e-P. But it explains Piantelli’s oddball results better
> than he can.
>
> Andrea Rossi is an amazing inventor and engineer and I can't wait to hear
> about the results of this recent long-term test. He is primarily an
> experimentalist though, and that's his strength.  The transmutation idea
> likely came from Focardi.  As an engineer, Rossi knows to remain flexible,
> and do whatever he can to move his design forward.  He will use whatever
> information is available, anything that he cares to set his eyes on.  That
> is how he succeeds.
>
>
>
> LENR is a complex multi-layered phenomenon in which most of the theories
> could be partially relevant to one degree or another. QM is about
> probability. The GUT will simply integrate them in a new way, when it
> happens. . BTW - Storms was out of character to “dis” quantum tunneling. I
> find that most bizarre.
>
> Quantum tunneling is out of the running for Storms because it was put in
> the lattice, where the close-enough groupings of nuclei would require
> violations in the laws of thermodynamics.
>
>
>
> Inherent and unfolding complexity is the name of the game. It is
> anti-Ockham. It turns off everyone, in general, and thus the uber-concept
> of a multi-faceted, intertwined GUT is not popular. But think about
> hydrogen in general – it is 90+% of the Universe. Can we really expect it
> to be simple? Since no single theorist can make a name for himself everyone
> seems to focus on a niche, and pretend that they can cherry pick data from
> various places, but in the end – the best answer will become obvious.
>
>
>
> And most surprising: much of that correct answer is now hidden in plain
> view.
>
> Yes, thank you Jones, I have to agree with you there.  I believe it's all
> there too.  We just have to put on those special glasses to see it!
>
> OK, I got to get busy!  My typing is over!
>
> Peace
> Ruby, a working woman
>
>
>
> Jones
>
>
>
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