From: Foks0904
OK...you sort of lost me. What are you getting at exactly? It doesn't contradict what I wrote in the slightest. Yeah, fermions & bosons play different roles in nuclear process, in all processes actually -- so what? John, since are acting as Ed’s spokesperson, I assumed you understood a little QM. Apparently that was not a valid assumption. The Pauli exclusion principle is one of the pillars of QM. It states that the total wave function for two identical fermions is anti-symmetric with respect to exchange of the particles. This means that they simply cannot fuse in circumstances below thermonuclear plasma threshold conditions (which are extremely demanding). Adding an electron as in P-e-P does not really alleviate the problem; and even on the sun, the reaction is extraordinarily rare and almost never happens, so how can anyone even suggest that on earth it will happen regularly at low temperature? That is preposterous, really. Ed is an electrochemist not a physicist. He accuses me of being a lawyer, not a physicist, but at least over the years, I have taken the time to become acquainted with QM and he pretty much rejects the field. Perhaps you do as well. Protons are Fermions. Thus, Ed has chosen an impossible reaction for fusion via the Hydroton theory, one which has no physical reality in LENR, at least when we are dealing with Fermions. As I said earlier, he could be correct as to deuterium. Integer spin particles, Bosons, are not subject to the Pauli exclusion principle and have a far easier time fusing in condensed matter, at high probability due to tunneling - especially since they have inherent coulomb screening from the neutron. Deuterons are Bosons. And even if Ed does not like tunneling, it is the only reason that his theory has a leg to stand on. LENR in the hydroton scenario is possible with Bosons and impossible with Fermions. It is as simple as that. Hope that helps, Jones
