*Quite obviously it is not,*

How can you say this?*  I know, you just wiggle your lips. *


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  Yes my friend, I understand this.  But is the control system regulating
> the reactor to operate below the sintering temperature of the
> nanoantennas?   Quite obviously it is not, so I am befuddled why you would
> bring this up.
>
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>
>  Keeping the reactor temperature under control is an engineering issue.
> It is the job of the reactors control system to regulate the reactor's
> temperature.
>
> A failure of that control system will cause the reactor to meltdown.
>
> Do you understand this?
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  But my friend, how does the nickel nanoantenna survive the temps.  Even
>> if you say the actual LENR reaction is remote from the nanoantenna, you
>> still have very high temps at the nanoantenna site itself.  This mechanism
>> can not be correct for this simple reason.
>>
>> Not to bring a religious topic in again, but your theory is like
>> Darwinian Evolution Theory.  It does not matter how elegant Darwinian
>> Theory is, how Natural selection mechanisms could explain the origin of
>> species; how novel Punctuated Evolution is, etc., etc.  It does not matter
>> unless Darwinists can explain the Abiogenesis problem on how life can
>> spontaneously arise from non-life chemicals.  They have to explain this
>> root problem first.  The validity of the entire Darwinian Evolution theory
>> rest on the plausibility of this root problem.  That is why to me,
>>  Darwinian evolution is a sham.
>>
>> My friend, I think you have the same problem here with your theory.  It
>> does not matter how elegant the rest of your theory is until you explain
>> the root problem.  How are the NAE nanostructures protected from high temps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jojo
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>  *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:08 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>>
>>  *If on the other hand, the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel
>> spherical nanoparticle, then that's different (note that a blob of nickel
>> nanoparticle is not a "nanostructure" per se.  It does not have a structure
>> such as a nanowire, a nanotip, a nanomesh, etc., it's just a spherical
>> blob.)  If the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel nanoparticle, it will
>> not matter if it is sintered or partially melted (which would be the case
>> in the Hotcat).  It will serve as an effective NAE until it evaporates, or
>> it sublimates, or it gets stuck and melted and merged into another nickel
>> nanoparticle, the result of which would be a bigger partially melted nickel
>> particle.  If this particle is still small enough, it may still continue to
>> act as an NAE.  If it becomes too big, then it stops being the NAE.*
>>
>> The NAE, is distant and remote from the nano antenna. The nano
>> antenna projects a magnetic beam on some atoms far from the nano antenna
>> . The beam usually falls on  hydrogen atoms far from the nano antenna. The
>> nano antenna does not feel the energy of the reaction. The nickel is
>> usually unaffected by the remote reaction. This is action at a distance,
>> That is why a reactor can stay unaffected for months or years without Nano
>> antenna destruction. Nickel is usually NOT changed to another element
>> through transmutation
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  But Axil my friend, nickel nanostructures such as your nanowires,
>>> nanoantennas, nanotips, etc will begin to sinter at temps lower than 400C.
>>> They are gone at 400C-1000C.  If they are the NAE as you theorize, they are
>>> at best one-time use NAE, which would mean that the reactor can not be
>>> restarted after its first run.
>>>
>>> Please explain to me how the hotcat can run at 1000C, shut down, and
>>> then be restarted at will.  Your theory can not explain this.
>>>
>>> This simple logic tells me why your theory is wrong.  The basic premise
>>> of your speculation do not hold up.  It appears impossible for nickel
>>> nanostructures to be the NAE, at least in the Hotcat.  Please go back and
>>> modify your theory according to my suggestion below.
>>>
>>> If on the other hand, the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel spherical
>>> nanoparticle, then that's different (note that a blob of nickel
>>> nanoparticle is not a "nanostructure" per se.  It does not have a structure
>>> such as a nanowire, a nanotip, a nanomesh, etc., it's just a spherical
>>> blob.)  If the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel nanoparticle, it will
>>> not matter if it is sintered or partially melted (which would be the case
>>> in the Hotcat).  It will serve as an effective NAE until it evaporates, or
>>> it sublimates, or it gets stuck and melted and merged into another nickel
>>> nanoparticle, the result of which would be a bigger partially melted nickel
>>> particle.  If this particle is still small enough, it may still continue to
>>> act as an NAE.  If it becomes too big, then it stops being the NAE.
>>>
>>> This speculation of mine explains a few problems.
>>>
>>> 1.  This would explain why we have quiescence after a few months.  The
>>> reason is that the nickel spherical blobs of nickel nanoparticle have
>>> agglomerated into bigger blobs which will not serve as NAE anymore.  The
>>> nickel has to be removed and reprocessed.   Axil's dynamic BEC Soliton,
>>> monopole, charge pumping, metaphasic shielding NAE can not explain why we
>>> have quiescence.  Why would we have quiescence after this BEC dynamic NAE
>>> has formed?  The reactor should go on forever, right?
>>>
>>> 2.  This would explain why the nickel microparticle that Rossi uses has
>>> to be processed into "sea-urchin" particles.  The nanometer sized spikes
>>> are the NAE.  When these spikes get heated, they break off from the mother
>>> microparticle and starts floating in the Hydrogen envelope where they serve
>>> as NAE.  It would not matter if they are partially melted, they are still
>>> capable of serving as NAE.
>>>
>>> 3.  This would explain why there would be a need to reheat the hotcat.
>>> Rossi needs to reheat the hotcat to break off some more nanoparticles to
>>> serve as new NAE sites as the old blobs stick to each other and stops
>>> becoming active NAE sites.
>>>
>>> 4.  This explanation fits nicely with the supposed architecture of the
>>> "mouse and cat".  The mouse produces the nickel nanoparticles for the cat.
>>> This would also explain why the mouse itself is overunity also.
>>> Fundamentally the reaction in both the mouse and the cat is the same.  The
>>> mouse is simply engineered to have lots of sea-urchin microparticles.  As
>>> these microparticles are heated, the tips break off into nanoparticles that
>>> serve as dynamically created NAE to the cat.  When all the tips are broken
>>> off, no further "dynamic" NAE are created, hence, we have quiescence.  The
>>> mouse needs to be "recharged" with a new batch of nickel sea-urchin
>>> microparticles.
>>>
>>> 5.  This would explain why we have runaway. A balance has to be achieved
>>> between the rate of nanoparticle production and temperature.  Too hot and
>>> too much nanoparticles would break off resulting in runaway.  This also
>>> explains why Rossi had to seperate the mouse from the Cat.  If he puts the
>>> sea-urchin microparticles in the cat, he would not be able to control how
>>> much nanoparticles are broken off because he can not finely control the
>>> temp of the cat.  So, he puts the sea-urchin microparticle in the mouse
>>> where he can control the temperature via external power.  This allows him
>>> fine tuned control of the whole hotcat.  Axil's dynamic BEC Soliton,
>>> monopole, charge pumping, metaphasic shielding NAE can not explain why we
>>> have runaway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How the nickel nanoparticle blobs serve as NAE - I do not know.  I am
>>> not smart enough to answer that.  Maybe others can explain how a blob of
>>> nickel nanoparticle serves as the NAE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jojo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   IAre you claiming your NAE is a simple blob of nickel spherical
>>> nanoparticale?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jojo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>>  *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:35 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>>>
>>>  In the Rossi reactor, there is a range in the operating
>>> temperature were the nickel nanostructures do not melt and yet excess heat
>>> is produced. That range is between about 400C to 1100C. This is the
>>> subcritical temperature range where energy must be input to "pump" the
>>> reaction. In order to produce the highest COP, Rossi must run his reactor
>>> close to the maximum subcritical temperature: say 1000 C.  If for some
>>> reason, the reactor temperature exceeds 1100C, the nickel nanostructures
>>> will meal and the power output of the dynamic NAE becomes a factor. This is
>>> when the reactor begins to melt down. Rossi has not discovered a way
>>> to stop  power production of the dynamic NAE before the reactor goes
>>> supercritical(COP goes to infinity).
>>>
>>> This lack of control has never been solved and is one reason why Rossi's
>>> reactor has not been certified and released as a safe product that does not
>>> explode.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I've been out of this thread on religion and radiometric dating, but
>>>> a certain fellow can't take no for an answer.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding Axil's speculation, he still needs to explain how his
>>>> nanostructure can perform what he speculates it can perform at high temps.
>>>> I know I keep harping on this sintering, melting of nanostructures stuff,
>>>> but it is a very strong objection to his theory.  He needs to be able to
>>>> account for this physical property of nanonickel, instead of just brushing
>>>> it aside as something I am too dumb to understand.  Unless he can come up
>>>> with a reasonable explanation why his nickel nanostructures won't sinter
>>>> and melt, his theory really is dead, no matter how elegant and esoteric the
>>>> rest of the theory is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jojo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Steve High <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* Vortex <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:37 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>>>>
>>>>  Hey guys is there any chance that the discussion on radiometric
>>>> dating could be moved to another thread? Axil put a lot of work into his
>>>> Egoout posting which I think is well-written and contains a number of
>>>> interesting ideas. I would love to see these ideas getting batted around by
>>>> the learned folk at vortex, but that seems to be getting crowded out by the
>>>> discussion on radiometrics and religion. I would like to read that too,
>>>> just on a different thread. The crux of Axil's idea seems to be that
>>>> nanomagnetic excitation of the nucleus results in the production of virtual
>>>> mesons that turn into muons that go on to promote  proton-proton
>>>> interactions. I am wondering if these individual steps have received
>>>> scientific exposition or validation elsewhere, and can all this take place
>>>> without having to deal with the dreaded gamma ray?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   We are talking rational history here, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Google hits for
>>>>> "historicity of Bhagavad Gita"  :  3
>>>>>
>>>>> "historicity of Jesus"  :  about 214,000
>>>>>
>>>>> Several times, I have asked people who claim to believe the Bhagavad
>>>>> Gita, "do you really believe these are historical accounts"?  Their answer
>>>>> is basically no, it's just something they believe in.  They were raised
>>>>> believing it, so they don't rock that boat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, specifically the Bhagava Gita. This a small text about Jesus, in
>>>>>> his previous incarnation, talking to Arjuna.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's very likely that Jesus was carpenter. He had a family to feed.
>>>>>> Or do you think he stared at a wall until he started preaching?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-08-15 13:26 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am turning the other cheek by not reciprocating with an insult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for your other point, I am not sure what you want to prove to
>>>>>>> me.  Are these passages from the Mahabharata?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jojo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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