Keeping the reactor temperature under control is an engineering issue. It
is the job of the reactors control system to regulate the reactor's
temperature.

A failure of that control system will cause the reactor to meltdown.

Do you understand this?


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
wrote:

>  But my friend, how does the nickel nanoantenna survive the temps.  Even
> if you say the actual LENR reaction is remote from the nanoantenna, you
> still have very high temps at the nanoantenna site itself.  This mechanism
> can not be correct for this simple reason.
>
> Not to bring a religious topic in again, but your theory is like Darwinian
> Evolution Theory.  It does not matter how elegant Darwinian Theory is, how
> Natural selection mechanisms could explain the origin of species; how novel
> Punctuated Evolution is, etc., etc.  It does not matter unless Darwinists
> can explain the Abiogenesis problem on how life can spontaneously arise
> from non-life chemicals.  They have to explain this root problem first.
> The validity of the entire Darwinian Evolution theory rest on the
> plausibility of this root problem.  That is why to me,  Darwinian evolution
> is a sham.
>
> My friend, I think you have the same problem here with your theory.  It
> does not matter how elegant the rest of your theory is until you explain
> the root problem.  How are the NAE nanostructures protected from high temps.
>
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>
>  *If on the other hand, the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel spherical
> nanoparticle, then that's different (note that a blob of nickel
> nanoparticle is not a "nanostructure" per se.  It does not have a structure
> such as a nanowire, a nanotip, a nanomesh, etc., it's just a spherical
> blob.)  If the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel nanoparticle, it will
> not matter if it is sintered or partially melted (which would be the case
> in the Hotcat).  It will serve as an effective NAE until it evaporates, or
> it sublimates, or it gets stuck and melted and merged into another nickel
> nanoparticle, the result of which would be a bigger partially melted nickel
> particle.  If this particle is still small enough, it may still continue to
> act as an NAE.  If it becomes too big, then it stops being the NAE.*
>
> The NAE, is distant and remote from the nano antenna. The nano
> antenna projects a magnetic beam on some atoms far from the nano antenna
> . The beam usually falls on  hydrogen atoms far from the nano antenna. The
> nano antenna does not feel the energy of the reaction. The nickel is
> usually unaffected by the remote reaction. This is action at a distance,
> That is why a reactor can stay unaffected for months or years without Nano
> antenna destruction. Nickel is usually NOT changed to another element
> through transmutation
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  But Axil my friend, nickel nanostructures such as your nanowires,
>> nanoantennas, nanotips, etc will begin to sinter at temps lower than 400C.
>> They are gone at 400C-1000C.  If they are the NAE as you theorize, they are
>> at best one-time use NAE, which would mean that the reactor can not be
>> restarted after its first run.
>>
>> Please explain to me how the hotcat can run at 1000C, shut down, and then
>> be restarted at will.  Your theory can not explain this.
>>
>> This simple logic tells me why your theory is wrong.  The basic premise
>> of your speculation do not hold up.  It appears impossible for nickel
>> nanostructures to be the NAE, at least in the Hotcat.  Please go back and
>> modify your theory according to my suggestion below.
>>
>> If on the other hand, the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel spherical
>> nanoparticle, then that's different (note that a blob of nickel
>> nanoparticle is not a "nanostructure" per se.  It does not have a structure
>> such as a nanowire, a nanotip, a nanomesh, etc., it's just a spherical
>> blob.)  If the NAE is just a simple blob of nickel nanoparticle, it will
>> not matter if it is sintered or partially melted (which would be the case
>> in the Hotcat).  It will serve as an effective NAE until it evaporates, or
>> it sublimates, or it gets stuck and melted and merged into another nickel
>> nanoparticle, the result of which would be a bigger partially melted nickel
>> particle.  If this particle is still small enough, it may still continue to
>> act as an NAE.  If it becomes too big, then it stops being the NAE.
>>
>> This speculation of mine explains a few problems.
>>
>> 1.  This would explain why we have quiescence after a few months.  The
>> reason is that the nickel spherical blobs of nickel nanoparticle have
>> agglomerated into bigger blobs which will not serve as NAE anymore.  The
>> nickel has to be removed and reprocessed.   Axil's dynamic BEC Soliton,
>> monopole, charge pumping, metaphasic shielding NAE can not explain why we
>> have quiescence.  Why would we have quiescence after this BEC dynamic NAE
>> has formed?  The reactor should go on forever, right?
>>
>> 2.  This would explain why the nickel microparticle that Rossi uses has
>> to be processed into "sea-urchin" particles.  The nanometer sized spikes
>> are the NAE.  When these spikes get heated, they break off from the mother
>> microparticle and starts floating in the Hydrogen envelope where they serve
>> as NAE.  It would not matter if they are partially melted, they are still
>> capable of serving as NAE.
>>
>> 3.  This would explain why there would be a need to reheat the hotcat.
>> Rossi needs to reheat the hotcat to break off some more nanoparticles to
>> serve as new NAE sites as the old blobs stick to each other and stops
>> becoming active NAE sites.
>>
>> 4.  This explanation fits nicely with the supposed architecture of the
>> "mouse and cat".  The mouse produces the nickel nanoparticles for the cat.
>> This would also explain why the mouse itself is overunity also.
>> Fundamentally the reaction in both the mouse and the cat is the same.  The
>> mouse is simply engineered to have lots of sea-urchin microparticles.  As
>> these microparticles are heated, the tips break off into nanoparticles that
>> serve as dynamically created NAE to the cat.  When all the tips are broken
>> off, no further "dynamic" NAE are created, hence, we have quiescence.  The
>> mouse needs to be "recharged" with a new batch of nickel sea-urchin
>> microparticles.
>>
>> 5.  This would explain why we have runaway. A balance has to be achieved
>> between the rate of nanoparticle production and temperature.  Too hot and
>> too much nanoparticles would break off resulting in runaway.  This also
>> explains why Rossi had to seperate the mouse from the Cat.  If he puts the
>> sea-urchin microparticles in the cat, he would not be able to control how
>> much nanoparticles are broken off because he can not finely control the
>> temp of the cat.  So, he puts the sea-urchin microparticle in the mouse
>> where he can control the temperature via external power.  This allows him
>> fine tuned control of the whole hotcat.  Axil's dynamic BEC Soliton,
>> monopole, charge pumping, metaphasic shielding NAE can not explain why we
>> have runaway.
>>
>>
>>
>> How the nickel nanoparticle blobs serve as NAE - I do not know.  I am not
>> smart enough to answer that.  Maybe others can explain how a blob of nickel
>> nanoparticle serves as the NAE.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jojo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   IAre you claiming your NAE is a simple blob of nickel spherical
>> nanoparticale?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jojo
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>  *Sent:* Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:35 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>>
>>  In the Rossi reactor, there is a range in the operating
>> temperature were the nickel nanostructures do not melt and yet excess heat
>> is produced. That range is between about 400C to 1100C. This is the
>> subcritical temperature range where energy must be input to "pump" the
>> reaction. In order to produce the highest COP, Rossi must run his reactor
>> close to the maximum subcritical temperature: say 1000 C.  If for some
>> reason, the reactor temperature exceeds 1100C, the nickel nanostructures
>> will meal and the power output of the dynamic NAE becomes a factor. This is
>> when the reactor begins to melt down. Rossi has not discovered a way
>> to stop  power production of the dynamic NAE before the reactor goes
>> supercritical(COP goes to infinity).
>>
>> This lack of control has never been solved and is one reason why Rossi's
>> reactor has not been certified and released as a safe product that does not
>> explode.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've been out of this thread on religion and radiometric dating, but a
>>> certain fellow can't take no for an answer.
>>>
>>> Regarding Axil's speculation, he still needs to explain how his
>>> nanostructure can perform what he speculates it can perform at high temps.
>>> I know I keep harping on this sintering, melting of nanostructures stuff,
>>> but it is a very strong objection to his theory.  He needs to be able to
>>> account for this physical property of nanonickel, instead of just brushing
>>> it aside as something I am too dumb to understand.  Unless he can come up
>>> with a reasonable explanation why his nickel nanostructures won't sinter
>>> and melt, his theory really is dead, no matter how elegant and esoteric the
>>> rest of the theory is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jojo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Steve High <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* Vortex <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:37 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:a new guest editorial by AXIL
>>>
>>>  Hey guys is there any chance that the discussion on radiometric dating
>>> could be moved to another thread? Axil put a lot of work into his Egoout
>>> posting which I think is well-written and contains a number of interesting
>>> ideas. I would love to see these ideas getting batted around by the learned
>>> folk at vortex, but that seems to be getting crowded out by the discussion
>>> on radiometrics and religion. I would like to read that too, just on a
>>> different thread. The crux of Axil's idea seems to be that nanomagnetic
>>> excitation of the nucleus results in the production of virtual mesons that
>>> turn into muons that go on to promote  proton-proton interactions. I am
>>> wondering if these individual steps have received scientific exposition or
>>> validation elsewhere, and can all this take place without having to deal
>>> with the dreaded gamma ray?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   We are talking rational history here, right?
>>>>
>>>> Google hits for
>>>> "historicity of Bhagavad Gita"  :  3
>>>>
>>>> "historicity of Jesus"  :  about 214,000
>>>>
>>>> Several times, I have asked people who claim to believe the Bhagavad
>>>> Gita, "do you really believe these are historical accounts"?  Their answer
>>>> is basically no, it's just something they believe in.  They were raised
>>>> believing it, so they don't rock that boat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, specifically the Bhagava Gita. This a small text about Jesus, in
>>>>> his previous incarnation, talking to Arjuna.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's very likely that Jesus was carpenter. He had a family to feed. Or
>>>>> do you think he stared at a wall until he started preaching?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-08-15 13:26 GMT-03:00 Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am turning the other cheek by not reciprocating with an insult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for your other point, I am not sure what you want to prove to me.
>>>>>> Are these passages from the Mahabharata?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jojo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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