Dave, you have a valid argument.

However, it might also be possible that constantan is a material able to 
catalyze an LENR (maybe hydrino transition) reaction more, hence, it would 
naturally be disintegrated in its own reaction.

It is critical that we be able to measure input power to rule out your 
argument.  Any Ideas on how to measure input power accurately?



Jojo


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


  Note that the constantan wire disintegrated during the test.  The implication 
is that much more energy was deposited into it than in the other cases.  This 
supports the proposition that some form of impedance matching is taking place 
since the impedance of constantan is much greater than copper.

  Dave







  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jack Cole <[email protected]>
  To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
  Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:06 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


  Thanks Jojo.
  I use the same piece of wire for the control and experimental. The only 
difference is dipping in water (and any changes related to running the current 
through the wire on the control run).
  The constantan wire disintegrated on the last experimental trial.
  On Aug 26, 2014 10:38 AM, "Jojo Iznart" <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's some good work Jack.

    Are the wire diameters and lengths the same?

    If so, these evidences are very compelling to me.  Randy may truly be on to 
something.




    Jojo


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jack Cole 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:31 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


      It does look more intense.  I also got to thinking that the electrodes 
could have condensation on them, thus producing a little bit of the effect.  
After I wiped them down and did another control run with electrodes only, there 
was very little spark/light.  One attempt after wiping the electrodes, produced 
no spark. 


      Also, the control with the wire only picks up moisture from my fingers.  
I'll have to figure out a way to place it to minimize that.


      I tried a new run with constantan wire.  It was the most intense light 
yet.  See the picture at the bottom of the post.


      http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2014/08/26/sun-cell-lite-testing/




      On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Yeah, looks like the last two are indeed more intense.  Could it just 
be a trick of the camera?  Does it really look more intense in person?

        If it is indeed more intense, I think Randy may have something.... 
Bummer.

        For those people who don't understand why I feel the Suncell technology 
may be real, it is pictures like these that convince me.  How do you explain 
more intense sparking when dipped in water.  There appears to be no chemical 
explanation for this.


        Jojo


          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jack Cole 
          To: [email protected] 
          Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:39 PM
          Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


          Jojo, 


          I'll see if I can accomplish that.  In the meantime, here are the 
results of testing.


          http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2014/08/26/sun-cell-lite-testing/



          We do get sparks without dipping in water.  The last two are after 
dipping in water.  What do you think--more intense?


          Jack





          On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Jojo Iznart <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            consider grinding a titanium bar into powder and then forming a 
small pellet with water.  This should be the quintessential Mill's fuel pellet. 
 See if the spark is as intense as Mill's suncell.


            Jojo


              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Jack Cole 
              To: [email protected] 
              Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:06 PM
              Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


              Yes, I was planning to do that.  I'll make a video of each test 
case.  I'll try with just the electrodes, with the copper wire only, and then 
dip it in water. 


              I'm also planning to try with titanium.  It will take a little 
work to get a small enough piece of that cut.


              I'm also going to try a small piece of metal with a little 
impression drilled into it so I can place water into the impression.  Then I'll 
set the electrode into the impression where the water is.



              On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Jojo Iznart 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                could you try copper wire without dipping in water and also 
with nothing at all. - no copper wire, just the electrodes.  These would be 
your controls.  to compare it with samples with water.


                Jojo


                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Jack Cole 
                  To: [email protected] 
                  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:39 PM
                  Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


                  It was with a tiny piece of copper wire that I dipped in 
water and put between the electrodes.  The amount of water is minuscule (the 
amount that managed to adhere to the metal).  You don't get that without the 
water.



                  On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)?


                    Jojo


                      ----- Original Message ----- 
                      From: Jack Cole 
                      To: [email protected] 
                      Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM
                      Subject: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt


                      Hi Folks,
                      I was excited to receive my spot welder today.  After 
ensuring it was in working order, I decided to get right to it and see if I 
could get anything like what BLP showed.  Lo and behold I got something on the 
first try.  
                      I remembered Mills talking about all the different 
possibilities for types of conductors that they might use in the commercial 
device, and copper was one of them.  I cut a very small piece of copper wire, 
dipped it in water, placed it on the electrodes, hit the switch, and pop with 
some bright light! 
                      Here's a link to the vid.  Sorry for the bad camera work.
                      Let me know what you think.  I'll do another vid soon in 
complete darkness.  
                      http://youtu.be/d6XYqEhwZgA
                      Jack








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