Bob just generated a fairly good description of what it will takes to determine
the input and output energy. Refer to his posting. We can discuss more
details if needed, but that is an excellent beginning.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Dave, you have a valid argument.
However, it might also be possible that constantan is a material able to
catalyze an LENR (maybe hydrino transition) reaction more, hence, it would
naturally be disintegrated in its own reaction.
It is critical that we be able to measure input power to rule out your
argument. Any Ideas on how to measure input power accurately?
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: David Roberson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Note that the constantan wire disintegrated during the test. The implication
is that much more energy was deposited into it than in the other cases. This
supports the proposition that some form of impedance matching is taking place
since the impedance of constantan is much greater than copper.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Thanks Jojo.
I use the same piece of wire for the control and experimental. The only
difference is dipping in water (and any changes related to running the
current through the wire on the control run).
The constantan wire disintegrated on the last experimental trial.
On Aug 26, 2014 10:38 AM, "Jojo Iznart" <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's some good work Jack.
Are the wire diameters and lengths the same?
If so, these evidences are very compelling to me. Randy may truly be on to
something.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
It does look more intense. I also got to thinking that the electrodes
could have condensation on them, thus producing a little bit of the
effect. After I wiped them down and did another control run with
electrodes only, there was very little spark/light. One attempt after
wiping the electrodes, produced no spark.
Also, the control with the wire only picks up moisture from my fingers.
I'll have to figure out a way to place it to minimize that.
I tried a new run with constantan wire. It was the most intense light
yet. See the picture at the bottom of the post.
http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2014/08/26/sun-cell-lite-testing/
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yeah, looks like the last two are indeed more intense. Could it just
be a trick of the camera? Does it really look more intense in person?
If it is indeed more intense, I think Randy may have something....
Bummer.
For those people who don't understand why I feel the Suncell technology
may be real, it is pictures like these that convince me. How do you
explain more intense sparking when dipped in water. There appears to
be no chemical explanation for this.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Jojo,
I'll see if I can accomplish that. In the meantime, here are the
results of testing.
http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2014/08/26/sun-cell-lite-testing/
We do get sparks without dipping in water. The last two are after
dipping in water. What do you think--more intense?
Jack
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
consider grinding a titanium bar into powder and then forming a
small pellet with water. This should be the quintessential Mill's
fuel pellet. See if the spark is as intense as Mill's suncell.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Yes, I was planning to do that. I'll make a video of each test
case. I'll try with just the electrodes, with the copper wire
only, and then dip it in water.
I'm also planning to try with titanium. It will take a little
work to get a small enough piece of that cut.
I'm also going to try a small piece of metal with a little
impression drilled into it so I can place water into the
impression. Then I'll set the electrode into the impression
where the water is.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Jojo Iznart
<jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:
could you try copper wire without dipping in water and also
with nothing at all. - no copper wire, just the electrodes.
These would be your controls. to compare it with samples with
water.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
It was with a tiny piece of copper wire that I dipped in
water and put between the electrodes. The amount of water is
minuscule (the amount that managed to adhere to the metal).
You don't get that without the water.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart
<jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:
was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)?
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Cole
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM
Subject: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt
Hi Folks,
I was excited to receive my spot welder today. After
ensuring it was in working order, I decided to get right
to it and see if I could get anything like what BLP
showed. Lo and behold I got something on the first try.
I remembered Mills talking about all the different
possibilities for types of conductors that they might use
in the commercial device, and copper was one of them. I
cut a very small piece of copper wire, dipped it in
water, placed it on the electrodes, hit the switch, and
pop with some bright light!
Here's a link to the vid. Sorry for the bad camera work.
Let me know what you think. I'll do another vid soon in
complete darkness.
http://youtu.be/d6XYqEhwZgA
Jack
