Jones--

Thanks for that repeat.


I missed it the first time.


Eric also identified the recent (2013) Va’vra paper, which is quite interesting 
including it reluctance to try to discuss theory, this being a change from his 
actions in the 1993 paper.  I wonder what changed his mind about addressing 
theory?


Bob






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From: Jones Beene
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎00‎ ‎PM
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                Bob - There were substantial changes made by Va’vra in
moving to QED which confuse the overall situation - but when we look at the
big picture – and consider all the theorists who have looked at the DDL,
there is still an excellent fit for the 3.7 keV species of Naudts fitting
the mold of dark-matter, virtual monopole, DDL, deep hydrino and most of the
gain seen in LENR. That was basically the intent of this post.

        
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg96638.html
                
                As you know, the possibility of real fusion has been
marginalized in this view, since it is no longer needed with the DDL, and it
requires the “second miracle” of lack of gammas.
                  
                From: Bob Cook 

                Jones--
                
                After reviewing this thread I do not think I made the
following observation stemming from the theory of relativistic DDL discussed
by Vavra etal in their 1993 paper.  It notes that the strongest repulsion of
the lower electronic levels is not the lowest energy level, but about level
10.  This suggests that there is a potential well attracting enectrons to
the lower levels with only a relatively little kinetic energy to get there.
                
                This may work to cause fusion much like muon  catalyzed
fusion is though to proceed.
                
                I do not know if Vavra etal has disavowed this part of their
theory since 1993.
                
                I do not have his/their later papers.  
                
                                From prior post: 
                
                                The characteristic interaction of monopoles
with each other
                is strong mutual attraction up to a fairly substantial
distance (cm range
                perhaps) and then strong mutual repulsion thereafter,
leaving a large gap
                which prohibits any dense aggregation of DDL, but yet
encourages large
                diffuse clouds of dark matter having substantial net mass
which cannot
                densify due to gravity, since the magnetic forces is so much
stronger.
                                
                                For those who do not have an understanding
of the phenomenon
                of attract/repel, with a large gap in between - here is a
visual demo of
                poly-magnets in spring mode, which precisely simulate in 2D
the
                characteristic of monopoles in 3D.
                                
        
http://www.youtube.com/embed/J8w6gwSm_ak/?autoplay=1

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