Jones--
Thanks for that repeat. I missed it the first time. Eric also identified the recent (2013) Va’vra paper, which is quite interesting including it reluctance to try to discuss theory, this being a change from his actions in the 1993 paper. I wonder what changed his mind about addressing theory? Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Jones Beene Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 4:00 PM To: [email protected] Bob - There were substantial changes made by Va’vra in moving to QED which confuse the overall situation - but when we look at the big picture – and consider all the theorists who have looked at the DDL, there is still an excellent fit for the 3.7 keV species of Naudts fitting the mold of dark-matter, virtual monopole, DDL, deep hydrino and most of the gain seen in LENR. That was basically the intent of this post. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg96638.html As you know, the possibility of real fusion has been marginalized in this view, since it is no longer needed with the DDL, and it requires the “second miracle” of lack of gammas. From: Bob Cook Jones-- After reviewing this thread I do not think I made the following observation stemming from the theory of relativistic DDL discussed by Vavra etal in their 1993 paper. It notes that the strongest repulsion of the lower electronic levels is not the lowest energy level, but about level 10. This suggests that there is a potential well attracting enectrons to the lower levels with only a relatively little kinetic energy to get there. This may work to cause fusion much like muon catalyzed fusion is though to proceed. I do not know if Vavra etal has disavowed this part of their theory since 1993. I do not have his/their later papers. From prior post: The characteristic interaction of monopoles with each other is strong mutual attraction up to a fairly substantial distance (cm range perhaps) and then strong mutual repulsion thereafter, leaving a large gap which prohibits any dense aggregation of DDL, but yet encourages large diffuse clouds of dark matter having substantial net mass which cannot densify due to gravity, since the magnetic forces is so much stronger. For those who do not have an understanding of the phenomenon of attract/repel, with a large gap in between - here is a visual demo of poly-magnets in spring mode, which precisely simulate in 2D the characteristic of monopoles in 3D. http://www.youtube.com/embed/J8w6gwSm_ak/?autoplay=1

