The UV signature would only be seen when the LENR reaction was active. It the Rossi reactor hydrogen is required as a dielectric envelope since solitons will not form without hydrogen.
The Mills reaction must be different chemically...more self contained chemically. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob, Eric > > > > Actually – if you remember from TP1, the Swedes did test the powder with > XRF. > > > > They did not report any UV signature. They should have if Mills reaction > is involved as you seem to be suggesting. > > > > Rossi was not pleased- as the Swedes were not supposed to report this > test. They would have seen a UV signature, if it was there. If you were > unaware of this, it may be a bit disingenuous to now say they saw the > signature, but didn’t report it in accordance with Rossi’s instructions - > since they did report the natural isotope ratio etc which impugn the > Focardi suggestion of fusion. > > > > Coincidentally, a similar procedure used by Lehigh to test the Thermacore > powder in the early nineties after a successful run. Lehigh was able to see > the signature emission line predicted by Mills at 55 eV instead of the > cop-out “continuum” which Mills now tries to cover with. A continuum with a > cutoff cannot be a signature. It is basically noise. Or in Mills case, it > is noise with spin <g>… > > > > …and in that Gernert paper, the nickel capillary tubing, after the very > long successful run, gives up the best evidence ever for the existence of > the hydrino – since it was tested by ESCA analysis at Lehigh University. > There is little doubt the tests were accurate – it is the interpretation > that can vary. The tests did show a signature, but not the exact level. > > > > ESCA is now known as X-ray photoelectron spectroscopy (XPS) and is > accomplished by capturing spectra obtained by irradiating a material with a > monochromatic beam of relatively soft X-rays. These x-ray will “expand” > dense hydrogen and return a UV signature in so doing. In this case, the > results supports some of Mills theory but not all of it. > > > > The Lehigh University testing in fact finds no 27.2 eV signature, as Mills > theory once suggested (in my edition of CQM) which is reputedly the initial > redundancy. Of course, Mills then backtracked to change his theory so that > it does not now predict this first Rydberg level, since he knows it is > absent. That backtracking is pretty clear evidence the theory is not very > useful, even though dense hydrogen (aka “pychno”) is seen at 55 eV, and > thus has been proved to exist is a circumstance were megajoules of excess > energy was documented (Thermacore). > > > > In conclusion, XPS did find a 55 eV signal/ signature, which is close to > Mills’ theoretical signature for the hydrino, which is supposed to be 54.4 > eV - but not exact. Mike Carrel who was Mills’ main supporter here, has > mentioned that Mills has lately dropped all efforts to find the lower > Rydberg signatures in favor of the H(1/4) and greater. What Mike failed to > mention is that the reason for this change in strategy (aka: cop out) is > that BLP HAS NEVER BEEN ABEL TO SHOW THE 27.2 SIGNATURE… and if one is > mildly skeptical of Mills, this can be viewed as a disaster. In short his > theory is partly wrong and partly right. > > > > However, there are takeaway messages from the Thermacore work wrt Rossi’s > reaction. > > 1) Dense hydrogen is real and will show up under XPS with a signature > > 2) Nickel hydride is stable for extended periods with dense hydrogen > embedded (the Lehigh testing was done a year later than the first excess > heat. > > 3) The results do not match Mills original theory exactly but come > close in parts > > 4) The Swedes should have seen the 55 eV signature if the Rossi > reaction was a Mills-type reaction and they did not report this. > > 5) It is thus fair to say that the Rossi reaction, despite many > similarities - is not exactly a Thermacore type reaction, unless the Swedes > are hiding evidence or failed to analyze their own data. > > 6) Everything may change with the new report – TIP2, but as of now, > there is no evidence that Mills theory applies to Rossi. However, there is > reason to suspect that dense hydrogen can exist in a number of isomers, one > of which is predicted by the Dirac theory- and it correlates to the > cosmological signature for “dark matter”. Mills own theory does not predict > dark matter, as his value is too low, but close. > > > > *From:* frobertcook > > > > Eric - I agree with your comment. That is the reason we should look at > the TPT carefully to see if it was designed to look inside any of the > reactors Rossi supplied to monitor conditions. If not, I for one will be > skeptical of conclusions regarding scientific conclusions. > > > > Eric Walker wrote: > > Jones Beene wrote: > > > > The ironic thing about the Rossi effect ... is that the radiation > band which is apparently absent for Rossi is ultraviolet - UV and EUV. > > > > X-rays below ~ 10 keV will be stopped by a simple metal casing. EUV will > be stopped by much less. I think we don't really know what the UV/EUV > signature is for Rossi's device. > > >
