My interest in the EMF characterization of the Ecat is a theoretical one,
not a safety issue (unless the EMF issues involves huge and disruptive
anomalies)

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Axil--
>
> Regarding you concern about the Hot Cat EMF, Rossi in August noted the
> following:
>
> >>>>The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for
> obvious safety reasons.
> Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat.
> If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not feel any current
> nor measure any electromagnetic emission.
> Warm Regards
> A.R. >>>>>>>>>
>
> Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature
>
>  There are types of magnetic EMF that cannot be shielded. Furthermore, if
> large amounts of electrons are being produced as a reaction
> byproduct, their chaotic interaction with the directly connected sensors
> and connectors may not be predictable over time.
>
> There may be an agreement in place between Rossi and the testers to keep
> this EMF based behavior of the Rossi reactor confidential to protect
> Industrial Heat's intellectual property claims.
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Axil--
>>
>> From my experience, I would doubt that is a major concern for these
>> simple thermocouples.  It there were a 50,000 watt antenna near by you
>> might get a pick up which could be detected in the voltage output of the
>> thermocouple.  However, the external leads of a T/C are generally in a
>> metal sheath and insulated from each other by a potting compound or other
>> insulating material.  The sheath would tend to shield the leads from RF
>> (RG?) radiation.
>>
>> Axil, I think your concern is unfounded.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:33 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature
>>
>>   Any directly connected sensor may be unreliable and erratic because of
>> the production of intense RG radiation especially in a reactor without RF
>> shielding.
>>
>> The only way to get good temperature data is through remote sensing,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   *From:* Jed Rothwell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The discussion of color and temperature only mask the glaring reality
>>> that
>>> an inexpensive way to be certain of thermal gain in the TP2 device is
>>> flow
>>> calorimetry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think flow calorimetry with this device at these temperatures would be
>>> problematic. For one thing, you could not see the device, which might even
>>> be dangerous. I think the present method is better, although it may not
>>> have been done right. It should be confirmed with the internal
>>> thermocouples.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, catch-22 they used an internal thermocouple - and apparently took
>>> data from a perfect location, which could “see” down the axis of the tube,
>>> presumably the hottest place in the system, but chose not to release the
>>> data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What excuse can they have - other than the thermocouple data does not
>>> support the thermography (therefore the thermocouple failed)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ahern proposed a calorimeter which would not compromise the integrity of
>>> the ceramic tube.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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