Rossi responds to the claim that "the color of the alumina at 1300°C
is white heat” by saying: "stupidity, Alumina becomes white heat only
when it melts at 2070°C and compare it to the glass is an elementary
mistake"

http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=853&cpage=14#comment-1013594

- Brad

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
> My interest in the EMF characterization of the Ecat is a theoretical one,
> not a safety issue (unless the EMF issues involves huge and disruptive
> anomalies)
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Axil--
>>
>> Regarding you concern about the Hot Cat EMF, Rossi in August noted the
>> following:
>>
>> >>>>The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for
>> >>>> obvious safety reasons.
>> Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat.
>> If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not feel any current
>> nor measure any electromagnetic emission.
>> Warm Regards
>> A.R. >>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Axil Axil
>> To: vortex-l
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature
>>
>> There are types of magnetic EMF that cannot be shielded. Furthermore, if
>> large amounts of electrons are being produced as a reaction byproduct, their
>> chaotic interaction with the directly connected sensors and connectors may
>> not be predictable over time.
>>
>> There may be an agreement in place between Rossi and the testers to keep
>> this EMF based behavior of the Rossi reactor confidential to protect
>> Industrial Heat's intellectual property claims.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Axil--
>>>
>>> From my experience, I would doubt that is a major concern for these
>>> simple thermocouples.  It there were a 50,000 watt antenna near by you might
>>> get a pick up which could be detected in the voltage output of the
>>> thermocouple.  However, the external leads of a T/C are generally in a metal
>>> sheath and insulated from each other by a potting compound or other
>>> insulating material.  The sheath would tend to shield the leads from RF
>>> (RG?) radiation.
>>>
>>> Axil, I think your concern is unfounded.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Axil Axil
>>> To: vortex-l
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature
>>>
>>> Any directly connected sensor may be unreliable and erratic because of
>>> the production of intense RG radiation especially in a reactor without RF
>>> shielding.
>>>
>>> The only way to get good temperature data is through remote sensing,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Jed Rothwell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The discussion of color and temperature only mask the glaring reality
>>>> that
>>>> an inexpensive way to be certain of thermal gain in the TP2 device is
>>>> flow
>>>> calorimetry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think flow calorimetry with this device at these temperatures would be
>>>> problematic. For one thing, you could not see the device, which might even
>>>> be dangerous. I think the present method is better, although it may not 
>>>> have
>>>> been done right. It should be confirmed with the internal thermocouples.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, catch-22 they used an internal thermocouple - and apparently took
>>>> data from a perfect location, which could “see” down the axis of the tube,
>>>> presumably the hottest place in the system, but chose not to release the
>>>> data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What excuse can they have - other than the thermocouple data does not
>>>> support the thermography (therefore the thermocouple failed)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ahern proposed a calorimeter which would not compromise the integrity of
>>>> the ceramic tube.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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