>
> once you change the board, the rules becomes meaningless.

Once you change the board on which the game is played,the rules becomes
meaningless.


On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:06 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is what I have been saying.
>
> Energy conservation is only true and other normal observations of physics
> are only true until the fabric of space and matter (aether, GR space-time)
> is changed, once you change the board, the rules becomes meaningless.
>
> This is why all the reports of the weird and wonderful (Free Energy,
> Antigravity, ghosts, aliens etc) all have multiple weird phenomena.
>
> It is changing reality, if you can do so to the right degree you just get
> some heat and transmutation, a bit of EM thrown in.
>
> If you go further levitation and various other effects can pop up.
>
> If the vacuum/aether/space time/dark matter/energy is conditioned
> carefully then the effects can be exact and limited to what is being sought.
>
> Consider a computer game version of monopoly, there is only so much money,
> and money is neither destroyed or created, it can only be earned, spent,
> maybe borrowed and repayed.
>
> As soon as you hack the game, the money supply can be changed since it is
> being done outside the system, externally to where such limitations have
> any meaning.
>
> There is no reason that the same can't be done with energy potentially, it
> could be fabricated as long as one works from outside the game of energy.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 6:37 AM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ​Energy is not conserved​
>>
>>
>> http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2010/02/22/energy-is-not-conserved/
>>
>> ​quote ​
>>
>> <<I like to think that, if I were not a professional cosmologist, I would
>> still find it hard to believe that hundreds of cosmologists around the
>> world have latched on to an idea that violates a bedrock principle of
>> physics, simply because they “forgot” it. If the idea of dark energy were
>> in conflict with some other much more fundamental principle, I suspect the
>> theory would be a lot less popular.
>>
>> But many people have just this reaction. It’s clear that cosmologists
>> have not done a very good job of spreading the word about something that’s
>> been well-understood since at least the 1920′s: energy is not conserved in
>> general relativity. (With caveats to be explained below.)
>>
>> The point is pretty simple: back when you thought energy was conserved,
>> there was areason why you thought that, namely time-translation invariance.
>> A fancy way of saying “the background on which particles and forces evolve,
>> as well as the dynamical rules governing their motions, are fixed, not
>> changing with time.” But in general relativity that’s simply no longer
>> true. Einstein tells us that space and time are dynamical, and in
>> particular that they can evolve with time. *When the space through which
>> particles move is changing, the total energy of those particles is not
>> conserved*.
>> ​>>​
>>
>> Harry
>>
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