W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 16:27:04 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph 
Junghans napisał:
>
> 2013/7/1  <s.neu...@gmail.com <javascript:>>: 
> > 
> > 
> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 15:28:35 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph 
> > Junghans napisał: 
> >> 
> >> 2013/7/1  <s.neu...@gmail.com>: 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 15:04:38 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph 
> >> > Junghans napisał: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 2013/7/1  <s.neu...@gmail.com>: 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 02:51:23 UTC+1 użytkownik 
> Christoph 
> >> >> > Junghans napisał: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 2013/6/18  <s.neu...@gmail.com>: 
> >> >> >> > Dear Votca Users, 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > I have started using the software some time ago and i 
> successfully 
> >> >> >> > managed 
> >> >> >> > to extract bonded parameters from atomistic into the 
> >> >> >> > coarse-grained - 
> >> >> >> > this 
> >> >> >> > is done. 
> >> >> >> > i have my peptide made of 90 residues - each residue is one 
> bead, 
> >> >> >> > however I 
> >> >> >> > wish to have nonbonded parameters for 5 types of beads (A, B, 
> C, 
> >> >> >> > D, 
> >> >> >> > E). 
> >> >> >> > In 
> >> >> >> > this case I will group my amino acids into given types of 
> beads. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > As I can see the input for IBI method is a RDF e.g. A-A, A-B, 
> B-B, 
> >> >> >> > etc 
> >> >> >> > (25 
> >> >> >> > in total). From atomistic I will get 90*90/2 = 4050 RDF between 
> >> >> >> > residues. In 
> >> >> >> > order to get an input for IBI shall I take an average of of RDF 
> >> >> >> > for 
> >> >> >> > A-A, 
> >> >> >> > A-B, etc (25 in total) from atomistic (4050 in total)? It will 
> not 
> >> >> >> > reproduce 
> >> >> >> > atomistic in this case of its average. Please, explain and 
> advice 
> >> >> >> > me. 
> >> >> >> I guess you need to average your 4050 rdf to get 25 averaged 
> rdfs. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> You could do that with csg_stat  or g_rdf if your simulation was 
> >> >> >> done 
> >> >> >> with gromacs. 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> PS: Sorry for the delay, this email slipped under my radar. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Thank you. I think I need to calculate rdf between different types 
> >> >> > specified 
> >> >> > in Gromacs... however, residues are neighboring so I wish to 
> exclude 
> >> >> > those 
> >> >> > interactions. In gromacs g_rdf does not have this option (-cut 
> option 
> >> >> > will 
> >> >> > just cut the distance which is incorrect). Would g_stat be able to 
> >> >> > exclude 
> >> >> > neighbors from my atomistic? 
> >> >> For g_rdf, you could use a special index file or create a tpr with 
> >> >> additional exclusion. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> In csg_stat you could add bonds (in the mapping xml file) between 
> the 
> >> >> beads, which you want to exclude. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Another issue: I used BI for angles - I tried refining my 
> potential 
> >> >> > using 
> >> >> > VOTCA but it somehow describes it poorly... Does csg_resample use 
> a 
> >> >> > function 
> >> >> > to refine it? What kind of function? 
> >> >> csg_resample uses akima spline by default, but it can also do cubic 
> >> >> spline or linear interpolation. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > I would prefer to refine it my own but no clue how I will then 
> >> >> > calculate 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > derivative of those values (3rd column in table)a*.xvg). Would you 
> >> >> > advise? 
> >> >> use csg_resample with --type linear and --derivative file option. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Christoph 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you a lot! csg_resample --type linear will use linear function 
> >> > which 
> >> > is not desired... My distributions are made of multiple gaussian 
> >> > distributions so i guess akima (deafult) option? 
> >> If you are using the same grid for input and output,  the y points 
> won't 
> >> change. 
> >> Linear interpolation will just draw lines between the given points. 
> >> If you have distributions made of multiple Gaussian, why don't you fit 
> >> multiple Gaussians to it and write the result out as a table again. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you. I tried to fit in another software my potential to 6th order 
> > polynomial but results are not promising... which option of csg_stat 
> will 
> > fit it to multiple gaussian? 
> There is no VOTCA tools doing that, but you could use scipy or gnuplot. 
>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > Does Votca 1.2.3 supports IBI for bonded or shall I upgarde it to 1.3 
> ? 
> >> Bonded IBI only works in Votca 1.3! 
> See: 
> <https://code.google.com/p/votca/wiki/Installing#Development_Version> 
>
> > 
> > 
> > I will upgrade it. For bonded do we provide both distributions and 
> > potentials in settings? 
> > 
> > <cg> 
> >    <bonded> 
> >     <name>angle</name> 
> >     <min>1</min> 
> >     <max>3</max> 
> >     <step>0.05</step> 
> >     <inverse> 
> >       <target>angle.dist1.tgt</target> 
> >       <gromacs> 
> >         <table>table_a1.xvg</table> 
> >       </gromacs> 
> >     </inverse> 
> >   </bonded> 
> > 
> > So the input are both refined table_a1.xvg as well as angle.dist1.tgt? 
> Will 
> > they be updated every step? 
> angle.dist1.tgt is the target distribution against which csg_inverse 
> compares the current distribution, it is never updated. 
> table_a1.xvg is the table to export VOTCAs internal potential to, it 
> is updated every iteration step. 
>
> Thank you. But for both bonded and nonbonded do I have to have two inputs: 
distribution and potential? 
Another issue: are tables*xvg copied every time or shall I add them to the 
list to be copied? they are not specified in the tutorial as files to be 
copied:

http://code.google.com/p/votca/source/browse/hexane/ibi_bonded/settings.xml?repo=csg-tutorials
 
Steven



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> > Thanks, 
> > 
> > Steven 
> > 
> >> > 
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