2013/7/1  <[email protected]>:
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> W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 16:27:04 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph
> Junghans napisał:
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>> 2013/7/1  <[email protected]>:
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>> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 15:28:35 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph
>> > Junghans napisał:
>> >>
>> >> 2013/7/1  <[email protected]>:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 15:04:38 UTC+1 użytkownik Christoph
>> >> > Junghans napisał:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2013/7/1  <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 02:51:23 UTC+1 użytkownik
>> >> >> > Christoph
>> >> >> > Junghans napisał:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2013/6/18  <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> > Dear Votca Users,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I have started using the software some time ago and i
>> >> >> >> > successfully
>> >> >> >> > managed
>> >> >> >> > to extract bonded parameters from atomistic into the
>> >> >> >> > coarse-grained -
>> >> >> >> > this
>> >> >> >> > is done.
>> >> >> >> > i have my peptide made of 90 residues - each residue is one
>> >> >> >> > bead,
>> >> >> >> > however I
>> >> >> >> > wish to have nonbonded parameters for 5 types of beads (A, B,
>> >> >> >> > C,
>> >> >> >> > D,
>> >> >> >> > E).
>> >> >> >> > In
>> >> >> >> > this case I will group my amino acids into given types of
>> >> >> >> > beads.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > As I can see the input for IBI method is a RDF e.g. A-A, A-B,
>> >> >> >> > B-B,
>> >> >> >> > etc
>> >> >> >> > (25
>> >> >> >> > in total). From atomistic I will get 90*90/2 = 4050 RDF between
>> >> >> >> > residues. In
>> >> >> >> > order to get an input for IBI shall I take an average of of RDF
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > A-A,
>> >> >> >> > A-B, etc (25 in total) from atomistic (4050 in total)? It will
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> > reproduce
>> >> >> >> > atomistic in this case of its average. Please, explain and
>> >> >> >> > advice
>> >> >> >> > me.
>> >> >> >> I guess you need to average your 4050 rdf to get 25 averaged
>> >> >> >> rdfs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You could do that with csg_stat  or g_rdf if your simulation was
>> >> >> >> done
>> >> >> >> with gromacs.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> PS: Sorry for the delay, this email slipped under my radar.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you. I think I need to calculate rdf between different types
>> >> >> > specified
>> >> >> > in Gromacs... however, residues are neighboring so I wish to
>> >> >> > exclude
>> >> >> > those
>> >> >> > interactions. In gromacs g_rdf does not have this option (-cut
>> >> >> > option
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > just cut the distance which is incorrect). Would g_stat be able to
>> >> >> > exclude
>> >> >> > neighbors from my atomistic?
>> >> >> For g_rdf, you could use a special index file or create a tpr with
>> >> >> additional exclusion.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In csg_stat you could add bonds (in the mapping xml file) between
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> beads, which you want to exclude.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Another issue: I used BI for angles - I tried refining my
>> >> >> > potential
>> >> >> > using
>> >> >> > VOTCA but it somehow describes it poorly... Does csg_resample use
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > function
>> >> >> > to refine it? What kind of function?
>> >> >> csg_resample uses akima spline by default, but it can also do cubic
>> >> >> spline or linear interpolation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I would prefer to refine it my own but no clue how I will then
>> >> >> > calculate
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > derivative of those values (3rd column in table)a*.xvg). Would you
>> >> >> > advise?
>> >> >> use csg_resample with --type linear and --derivative file option.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you a lot! csg_resample --type linear will use linear function
>> >> > which
>> >> > is not desired... My distributions are made of multiple gaussian
>> >> > distributions so i guess akima (deafult) option?
>> >> If you are using the same grid for input and output,  the y points
>> >> won't
>> >> change.
>> >> Linear interpolation will just draw lines between the given points.
>> >> If you have distributions made of multiple Gaussian, why don't you fit
>> >> multiple Gaussians to it and write the result out as a table again.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you. I tried to fit in another software my potential to 6th order
>> > polynomial but results are not promising... which option of csg_stat
>> > will
>> > fit it to multiple gaussian?
>> There is no VOTCA tools doing that, but you could use scipy or gnuplot.
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Does Votca 1.2.3 supports IBI for bonded or shall I upgarde it to 1.3
>> >> > ?
>> >> Bonded IBI only works in Votca 1.3!
>> See:
>> <https://code.google.com/p/votca/wiki/Installing#Development_Version>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I will upgrade it. For bonded do we provide both distributions and
>> > potentials in settings?
>> >
>> > <cg>
>> >    <bonded>
>> >     <name>angle</name>
>> >     <min>1</min>
>> >     <max>3</max>
>> >     <step>0.05</step>
>> >     <inverse>
>> >       <target>angle.dist1.tgt</target>
>> >       <gromacs>
>> >         <table>table_a1.xvg</table>
>> >       </gromacs>
>> >     </inverse>
>> >   </bonded>
>> >
>> > So the input are both refined table_a1.xvg as well as angle.dist1.tgt?
>> > Will
>> > they be updated every step?
>> angle.dist1.tgt is the target distribution against which csg_inverse
>> compares the current distribution, it is never updated.
>> table_a1.xvg is the table to export VOTCAs internal potential to, it
>> is updated every iteration step.
>>
> Thank you. But for both bonded and nonbonded do I have to have two inputs:
> distribution and potential?
> Another issue: are tables*xvg copied every time or shall I add them to the
> list to be copied? they are not specified in the tutorial as files to be
> copied:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/votca/source/browse/hexane/ibi_bonded/settings.xml?repo=csg-tutorials
The tables are generated for every interaction, which appears in your
settings xml file.

The target distributions are the only inputs you need for non-bonded
interactions. For the bonded interactions you will need an initial
guesses for the potential in addition (pot.in file).

>
> Steven
>
>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Steven
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Steven
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Steven
>> >> >> >> >
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