2013/8/22 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>:
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2013/8/22 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>:
>> > Dear votca users,
>> >
>> > I am stucked in some basic work flow of CG.
>> >
>> > I am using 1.3-dev version of votca with gmx 4.6.3.
>> >
>> > I have generated the distributions of bonds of the beads from the mapped
>> > atomistic simulation. The beads are in the following sequence
>> > A1-B1-C1-B2-D1-B3-C2-B4-D2-B5-C3-E1. Bonds are defined in the cg mapping
>> > file as:
>> >     <bond> <name>AB.bond</name>  <beads>
>> >         A1 B1
>> >      </beads> </bond>
>> >     <bond>  <name>BC.bond</name> <beads>
>> >         B1 C1
>> >         C1 B2
>> >         B3 C2
>> >         C2 B4
>> >         B5 C3
>> >       </beads> </bond>
>> >     <bond> <name>BD.bond</name> <beads>
>> >         B2 D1
>> >         D1 B3
>> >         B4 D2
>> >         D2 B5
>> >       </beads> </bond>
>> >  <bond> <name>CE.bond</name>  <beads>
>> >         C3 E1
>> >       </beads> </bond>
>> >
>> > First, I have computed all the bonded distributions and then normalized
>> > it
>> > and inverted to obtain the respective potentials. I have also calculated
>> > the
>> > force (-dV/dr). This potential and force severs as an input for the
>> > step_001. I have attached the distribution and potential (for AB bead).
>> > After the completion of step_001, I obtain the distributions and
>> > potentials
>> > (*.new). I see that in step_001 the AB.bond samples different space (fig
>> > attached). As the sampling regions are not overlapping, so the potential
>> > update would be wrong. The same behaviour is also observed for the
>> > BD.bond.
>> > While BC and CE bonds shows resonable distributions.  Can someone guide
>> > me
>> > regarding this?  The potential for the AB.bond dips around 0.34. So, the
>> > same should also be reflected in the AB.bond distribution. Hope I am
>> > making
>> > a correct statement. What would be the possible reasons that forces the
>> > AB
>> > bond to sample around 0.37 instead for 0.34 nm? Any insight would be
>> > very
>> > helpful.
>>
>> It looks like something might be wrong in your coarse-grained topology.
>
>
> I will have a re-look at the topology.
>>
>>
>> It could also be problematic to iterate on all interactions at the
>> same time. Play with do_potential in your settings file.
>> You could also try to coarse grain the bonded interactions first from
>> a single molecule in vacuum.
>> Or replace the bonded interactions by a very stiff springs and iterate
>> on the non-bonded interactions first and then do IBI on the springs
>> again.
>>
>> Btw, the target distributions for csg_inverse for bonded interactions
>> should be calculated with csg_stat and hence don't include the 1/r^2
>> and 1/sin normalization.
>
>
> Does it imply that csg_stat includes the normalization. As the distributions
> overlap with the csg_boltzmann output, then it should also include the
> normalization.
csg_stat does not include the normalization, while csg_boltzmann has
an option to change that.
Feel free, to send us a patch to improve the situation in csg_stat.

However for calculating the update, -k_bT*ln(dist/dist_target), it
doesn't matter what the normalization of the distribution is as long
as it is the same as the one of the target distribution. Due to the
fact that csg_inverse uses csg_stat to calculate the distributions, it
is the easiest to obtain the target distribution with csg_stat, too.

Also the normalization factor won't make much difference in the
overlap of the distributions as the normalization factor is always
greater than 0.

Christoph
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> Chandan
>>
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Chandan
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chandan kumar Choudhury
>> > NCL, Pune
>> > INDIA
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