Hi Christoph & Sikandar,

Thank you both for your replies!

Per your suggestions, I have compared the potentials generated (i.e. 
B-spline interpolated) based on the initial guesses provided as 
CGi-CGj.param.init files with the original data (i.e. the contents of those 
param.init files). I found systematic discrepancies (see the attached 
graph, where only 3 potentials shown)! - No wonder I am getting into 
trouble after a new simulation with the potentials being that much off, 
especially at shorter distances.

Is it normal to have such large differences with the interpolated data? 
I would think that there must be a way to improve on the interpolation by 
varying something in the input - ?
Is it where the LJ repulsive core would help? (Although I think that would 
be an ad hoc workaround for the poor interpolation issue.)

It seems I still need your advice here, based on your practical experience.

Andrey

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 7:39:45 AM UTC+1, sikandar wrote:
>
> Hi Andrey,
>
> Below are some of the things you can try to address this issue.
>
> 1. Make sure the potentials generated from your initial parameters are 
> physically consistent
> 2. Increase number of timesteps in CG simulation
> 3. Decrease the scaling parameter
> 4. If your CG system has charges, then you may need to add a LJ type 
> potential to your CBSPL CG potential after every CG update to ensure that 
> the CG potential is repulsive enough at short distances and does not allow 
> overlap of oppositely charged sites. You can enable this option by 
> specifying post_update block for every CG potential pair as
> <non-bonded>
> ...
> <post_update>lj</post_update>
> <post_update_options>
> <lj>
> <c6> LJ C6 Value </c6>
> <c12> LJ C12 Value </c12>
> </lj>
> </post_update_options>
> ...
> </non-bonded>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Sikandar
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:13 PM Christoph Junghans <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 18:15 'Andrey Brukhno' via votca <
>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I managed to run the RE iteration for a system with 10 non-bonded 
>>> potentials (types).. well, the first iteration anyway, where it terminated 
>>> after about an hour of running csg_reupdate with the following error:
>>>
>>> *Hessian NOT a positive definite! *
>>> This can be a result of poor initial guess or ill-suited CG potential 
>>> settings or poor CG sampling.
>>>
>>> My understanding is, sometimes this might happen, but this was my second 
>>> trial where I virtually doubled (44 -> 88) the number of knots and (in both 
>>> cases) I use potentials derived from an earlier IBI iteration. 
>>>
>>> I would really appreciate clues, hints or general advice as to how to 
>>> alleviate the issue.
>>>
>> Sikandar will know more, but most likely you will need to throw away some 
>> frames at the beginning of the trajectory and run the iterations for a bit 
>> longer!
>>
>> Christoph 
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Andrey
>>>
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