Thank you sir. But IBI would be for multiple propane molecules. Isn't it ?
It won't be for single propane i think

On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 19:47 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:16 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sir, i performed atomistic simulation of single  propane in vaccum. But,
>> if we use multiple propane simulation in vaccum, then csg_stat can give RDF
>> which can be compared with RDF of ibi/imc methods ?
>>
> The single molecule in vacuum is a common separation strategy to determine
> the intertra molecular interactions. In short get the bonded interactions
> from BI for the single chain run and then run IBI for the non-bonded
> interactions.
> see the Tschoep paper from 1998 (
> https://www.votca.org/csg/bibliography.html#tschoep-1998)
>
> I want to know how to choose which method (ibi, imc) would be accurate to
>> give accurate structural properties?
>>
> That depends on the system. IBI, IMC & Re are all structure-based methods
> and try to reproduce the structure.
> Usually IBI is more robust, but needs more iterations. But IMC converges
> faster, but needs longer iterations. Marvin (who is on the mailing list as
> well) wrote an interesting paper about that recently:
> https://doi.org/10.1021/acs.jctc.2c00665
>
>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 09:48 Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir, actually it was given by professor so that, for any arbitrary
>>> molecule also I can make itp file to run CG-MD simulation. It is just for
>>> my learning purpose.
>>>
>>> Suppose, in the tutorial for CG systems topol.top file is there. Like
>>> for ibi, imc method etc. topol.top is there. But, for any unknown organic
>>> CG molecule how can one generate itp file to run CGMD simulation ?
>>>
>>>
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 21:00 Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually sir, it was asked me to prepare propane.itp (for CG).
>>>>>
>>>> Sorry, can you explain a bit more why you need an itp file? All the
>>>> files (except for the potentials) are in the tutorial already.
>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 4:15 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 12:34 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have done boltzmann inversion of propane. now, for getting
>>>>>>> nonbonded parameters what protocol should I follow ? Because, my aim is 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> generate GROMACS compatible itp file for CG propane so that, can perform
>>>>>>> CG-MD using Votca.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't you use the topology files from the propane tutorial?
>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>>>> I am asking because most of the CG methods VOTCA implement work on
>>>>>> tabulated potentials only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:13 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgot to CC the mailing list, so here is the answer for others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>> From: Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:22 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [votca] Regarding-Getting-itp-files:
>>>>>>>> To: Kankana Bhattacharjee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:06 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sir, after boltzmann inversion, bond.dist.ib, angle.dist.ib and
>>>>>>>>> bond.pot.ib, angle.pot.ib (after using tab command)files generated. 
>>>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>>> where will I get sigma, epsilon values
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not a 100% sure what you mean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you use nbfunc=1 and comb-rule=1, the sigma and epsilon
>>>>>>>> column in the atomtypes block are actually the C6 and C12 parameters 
>>>>>>>> (i.e.
>>>>>>>> the prefactor of 1/r**6 and 1/r**12).
>>>>>>>> But if you then use tables (vdwtype = user in the mdp file), 1/r**6
>>>>>>>> and 1/r**12 gets replaced with the function from files you provided 
>>>>>>>> (e.g.
>>>>>>>> obtained by boltzmann inversion) And hence in VOTCA we just set 
>>>>>>>> C6=C12=1,
>>>>>>>> so that the table is used unmodified.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> 07:34:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:27 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:44 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, I would like to know how sigma, epsilon and default section
>>>>>>>>>>> was decided fpr CG-MD  simulation ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> no sigma and epsilon, it is all tabulated interactions.
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/hexane/ibi_nonbonded/grompp.mdp#L73
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and those tables you get from boltzmann inversion (or force
>>>>>>>>>> matching).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> From: Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [votca] Regarding-Getting-itp-files:
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Kankana Bhattacharjee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 3:40 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know that, in votca beads are defined using "A,
>>>>>>>>>>>> B" etc. But, how to understand what type of bead it is i.e, polar, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> aploar,
>>>>>>>>>>>> charged etc. Using A, B beads can anyone run GROMACS MD simulation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the topol.top of the coarse grained simulation you can set
>>>>>>>>>>> the charge, e.g. see:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/hexane/ibi_nonbonded/topol.top#L5_L8
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:06 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have included the individual bond section in propane.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. Now, distribution is generating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, for getting non-bonded parameters, which procedure should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to follow ? I can use either Force Matching or Iterative 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get non-bonded parameters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:49 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used this command line for bonded distribution:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csg_boltzmann --top topol.tpr --trj traj.trr --cg propane.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <  boltzmann_cmds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, got average bond length and angle distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, bond section is already present in my propane.xml file. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dint get any plottable bond1.dist.ib and bond2.dist.ib files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am attaching the files here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please kindly help me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:37:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:26 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 5:22 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to generate the histogram of bonded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution and convert into the boltzmann inverted potential 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane which is given in the tutorial. Since, in case of CG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bond length is present (A1-B1 and B1-A2) which is mentioned in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane.xml file and similarly one angle. So, I am not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I generate distribution of every bond of propane molecule. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performed short 5 ps run of single propane molecule. When I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line in boltzmann.cmds as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hist bond1.dist.ib *:bond1:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hist bond2.dist.ib *:bond2:*, then no plottable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bond1.dist.ib/bond2.dist.ib is generating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to average over the 2 bonds the easiest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to do that is to add another bond block here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/propane.xml#L34_L40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the names should be "bond1" and "bond2" for your application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then run csg_stat (or csg_boltzmann):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/run.sh#L22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My aim is to generate the every bond length histogram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide me the suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph. D. Scholar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashoka University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonipat, Haryana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:45 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:46 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok sir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to perform boltzmann inversion after short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (5 ps) atomistic MD run of propane. I am attaching the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp file of the atomistic run, distributed bonded 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential files,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boltzmann inverted bonded potential files. But, not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these potential are helping in generating the itp file of CG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well once you have the inverted potentials you can use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in the CG run, *.pot is the VOTCA format, which you have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xvg (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.votca.org/csg/preparing.html#exporting-the-table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the table_a1 (a1 for Angle 1) and table_b1 (b1 for Bond 1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the propane tutorials were generated this way:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, the thing which I understood is that, boltzmann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inversion is used for getting all atom inverted potential 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and force
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matching is used for getting non-bonded potentials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For you can use iterative boltzmann inversion for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-bonded interactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Force-matching works for bonded interactions as well, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VOTCA has implemented that)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG propane itp  (topol.top) file is available in ibi/imc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods part of votca. Can it be supplied in performing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG-MD simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using GROMACS ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you run the propane tutorial after a couple of steps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will have some tabulated potential that you can use for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG-MD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:33 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you sir. I would like to know, how can one get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gromacs compatible itp file for a Coarse grained model 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using votca ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is all tabulated interaction, hence no itp files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the interactions are determined by IBI, IMC or Force
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matching, whatever you prefer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:58 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:13 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot sir for your kind help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have gone through the topol.top file of spce and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane model using ibi method. I have doubts, how did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you define the mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the beads, charge, bond and angle between beads in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topol.top file of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG model ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a center of mass mapping it is just the sum of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> masses (and charges), but of course you can do other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mappings, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In general making a coarse-grained model is more art
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:15 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:23 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am learning votca. Now, I have done spce water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model atomistic md run. In the spce/atomistic foolder, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrator as "sd" . And, I used this settings for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short MD run. Then, used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csg_tool to compute rdf of CG-CG beads and compared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with CG-CG with ibi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, I dint understand the "Running ibi" part of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spce model. It has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to reduce the number of MD steps in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp and adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equilibration time in the settings.xml file. Exactly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to adjust this and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why ? I have skipped the "Running ibi" option.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the number of MD steps is in grompp.mdp, while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the equilibration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time is in settings.xml. Longer run will give you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoother RDFs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the system usually needs some time to equilibrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the initial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condition, so you don't want to pick that too short.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the tutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we ask folks to explore these options to get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel for statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Second;y, I did force matching part exactly. But,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dint understand exactly what is happening. Like, If I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gromacs compatible forcefield.itp for a coarse grained 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model and perform MD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation using gromacs. THen, how can I generate ttp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file for a molecule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Force matching return a tabulated force that can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then be used to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coarse-grained simulation. Have a look at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topol.top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spce/ibi example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph Junghans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.compphys.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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