On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:00 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you sir. But IBI would be for multiple propane molecules. Isn't it ?
> It won't be for single propane i think
>
Yes, IBI (and IMC and RE) are for multiple molecules.


>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 19:47 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:16 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir, i performed atomistic simulation of single  propane in vaccum. But,
>>> if we use multiple propane simulation in vaccum, then csg_stat can give RDF
>>> which can be compared with RDF of ibi/imc methods ?
>>>
>> The single molecule in vacuum is a common separation strategy to
>> determine the intertra molecular interactions. In short get the bonded
>> interactions from BI for the single chain run and then run IBI for the
>> non-bonded interactions.
>> see the Tschoep paper from 1998 (
>> https://www.votca.org/csg/bibliography.html#tschoep-1998)
>>
>> I want to know how to choose which method (ibi, imc) would be accurate to
>>> give accurate structural properties?
>>>
>> That depends on the system. IBI, IMC & Re are all structure-based methods
>> and try to reproduce the structure.
>> Usually IBI is more robust, but needs more iterations. But IMC converges
>> faster, but needs longer iterations. Marvin (who is on the mailing list as
>> well) wrote an interesting paper about that recently:
>> https://doi.org/10.1021/acs.jctc.2c00665
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023, 09:48 Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir, actually it was given by professor so that, for any arbitrary
>>>> molecule also I can make itp file to run CG-MD simulation. It is just for
>>>> my learning purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Suppose, in the tutorial for CG systems topol.top file is there. Like
>>>> for ibi, imc method etc. topol.top is there. But, for any unknown organic
>>>> CG molecule how can one generate itp file to run CGMD simulation ?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:42 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 21:00 Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually sir, it was asked me to prepare propane.itp (for CG).
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, can you explain a bit more why you need an itp file? All the
>>>>> files (except for the potentials) are in the tutorial already.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 4:15 AM Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 12:34 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have done boltzmann inversion of propane. now, for getting
>>>>>>>> nonbonded parameters what protocol should I follow ? Because, my aim 
>>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>>> generate GROMACS compatible itp file for CG propane so that, can 
>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>> CG-MD using Votca.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why can't you use the topology files from the propane tutorial?
>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>>>>> I am asking because most of the CG methods VOTCA implement work on
>>>>>>> tabulated potentials only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:13 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forgot to CC the mailing list, so here is the answer for others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:22 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [votca] Regarding-Getting-itp-files:
>>>>>>>>> To: Kankana Bhattacharjee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 8:06 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sir, after boltzmann inversion, bond.dist.ib, angle.dist.ib and
>>>>>>>>>> bond.pot.ib, angle.pot.ib (after using tab command)files generated. 
>>>>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>>>> where will I get sigma, epsilon values
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am not a 100% sure what you mean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you use nbfunc=1 and comb-rule=1, the sigma and epsilon
>>>>>>>>> column in the atomtypes block are actually the C6 and C12 parameters 
>>>>>>>>> (i.e.
>>>>>>>>> the prefactor of 1/r**6 and 1/r**12).
>>>>>>>>> But if you then use tables (vdwtype = user in the mdp file),
>>>>>>>>> 1/r**6 and 1/r**12 gets replaced with the function from files you 
>>>>>>>>> provided
>>>>>>>>> (e.g. obtained by boltzmann inversion) And hence in VOTCA we just set
>>>>>>>>> C6=C12=1, so that the table is used unmodified.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> 07:34:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:27 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:44 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, I would like to know how sigma, epsilon and default
>>>>>>>>>>>> section was decided fpr CG-MD  simulation ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> no sigma and epsilon, it is all tabulated interactions.
>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/hexane/ibi_nonbonded/grompp.mdp#L73
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and those tables you get from boltzmann inversion (or force
>>>>>>>>>>> matching).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [votca] Regarding-Getting-itp-files:
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Kankana Bhattacharjee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 3:40 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know that, in votca beads are defined using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "A, B" etc. But, how to understand what type of bead it is i.e, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> polar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aploar, charged etc. Using A, B beads can anyone run GROMACS MD 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the topol.top of the coarse grained simulation you can set
>>>>>>>>>>>> the charge, e.g. see:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/hexane/ibi_nonbonded/topol.top#L5_L8
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 11:06 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have included the individual bond section in propane.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. Now, distribution is generating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, for getting non-bonded parameters, which procedure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should I have to follow ? I can use either Force Matching or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iterative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods to get non-bonded parameters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 9:49 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used this command line for bonded distribution:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csg_boltzmann --top topol.tpr --trj traj.trr --cg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane.xml <  boltzmann_cmds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, got average bond length and angle distribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, bond section is already present in my propane.xml file. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dint get any plottable bond1.dist.ib and bond2.dist.ib files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am attaching the files here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please kindly help me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:26 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 5:22 AM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to generate the histogram of bonded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution and convert into the boltzmann inverted 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential for single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane which is given in the tutorial. Since, in case of CG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bond length is present (A1-B1 and B1-A2) which is mentioned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane.xml file and similarly one angle. So, I am not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can I generate distribution of every bond of propane 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> molecule. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performed short 5 ps run of single propane molecule. When I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am adding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line in boltzmann.cmds as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hist bond1.dist.ib *:bond1:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hist bond2.dist.ib *:bond2:*, then no plottable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bond1.dist.ib/bond2.dist.ib is generating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to average over the 2 bonds the easiest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to do that is to add another bond block here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/propane.xml#L34_L40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the names should be "bond1" and "bond2" for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application above.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then run csg_stat (or csg_boltzmann):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/blob/master/csg-tutorials/propane/atomistic/run.sh#L22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My aim is to generate the every bond length histogram
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide me the suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph. D. Scholar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashoka University
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonipat, Haryana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:45 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:46 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok sir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to perform boltzmann inversion after short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (5 ps) atomistic MD run of propane. I am attaching the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp file of the atomistic run, distributed bonded 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential files,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boltzmann inverted bonded potential files. But, not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these potential are helping in generating the itp file of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG propane.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well once you have the inverted potentials you can use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them in the CG run, *.pot is the VOTCA format, which you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xvg (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.votca.org/csg/preparing.html#exporting-the-table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the table_a1 (a1 for Angle 1) and table_b1 (b1 for Bond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) in the propane tutorials were generated this way:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/votca/votca/tree/master/csg-tutorials/propane/ibi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, the thing which I understood is that, boltzmann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inversion is used for getting all atom inverted potential 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and force
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matching is used for getting non-bonded potentials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For you can use iterative boltzmann inversion for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-bonded interactions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Force-matching works for bonded interactions as well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but VOTCA has implemented that)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG propane itp  (topol.top) file is available in ibi/imc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods part of votca. Can it be supplied in performing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG-MD simulation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using GROMACS ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you run the propane tutorial after a couple of steps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will have some tabulated potential that you can use for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG-MD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:33 PM Kankana Bhattacharjee <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you sir. I would like to know, how can one get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gromacs compatible itp file for a Coarse grained model 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using votca ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is all tabulated interaction, hence no itp files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the interactions are determined by IBI, IMC or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Force Matching, whatever you prefer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 9:58 AM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 10:13 PM Kankana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhattacharjee <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot sir for your kind help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have gone through the topol.top file of spce and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propane model using ibi method. I have doubts, how did 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you define the mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the beads, charge, bond and angle between beads in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topol.top file of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CG model ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a center of mass mapping it is just the sum of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the masses (and charges), but of course you can do other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mappings, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In general making a coarse-grained model is more art
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 9:15 PM Christoph Junghans <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:23 AM Kankana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Dear Sir,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am learning votca. Now, I have done spce water
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model atomistic md run. In the spce/atomistic foolder, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp contains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrator as "sd" . And, I used this settings for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short MD run. Then, used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> csg_tool to compute rdf of CG-CG beads and compared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with CG-CG with ibi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, I dint understand the "Running ibi" part of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spce model. It has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been asked to reduce the number of MD steps in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grompp.mdp and adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equilibration time in the settings.xml file. Exactly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to adjust this and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why ? I have skipped the "Running ibi" option.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the number of MD steps is in grompp.mdp,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while the equilibration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time is in settings.xml. Longer run will give you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoother RDFs, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the system usually needs some time to equilibrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the initial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condition, so you don't want to pick that too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short. In the tutorial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we ask folks to explore these options to get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel for statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Second;y, I did force matching part exactly. But,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dint understand exactly what is happening. Like, If I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gromacs compatible forcefield.itp for a coarse grained 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model and perform MD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation using gromacs. THen, how can I generate ttp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file for a molecule.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Force matching return a tabulated force that can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then be used to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coarse-grained simulation. Have a look at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topol.top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spce/ibi example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christoph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks & Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kankana Bhattacharjee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
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