Remember the late, Les Eichorn?  That guy fished, all over the world, in his
day.  I really liked the guy...always a smile and a good story.  Les told me
one time, at a Seattle Sportsman's Show, that as fun experience he's ever
had, was fishing an Alaskan River with an Alaskan Mouse imitation....casting
it into the grassy bank and popping it out into the river.  Big rainbows
would come clear out of the water and pounce on it!  Leland's popper would
do the same.  (they call them Vol's in Alaska)  Come to think about it,
maybe these big cutts on the South Fork will do that!  Thanks for reminding
me of Les.  Jere





----- Original Message -----
From: "Warner, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Leland's saltwater popper


> Leland,
>
> Have you ever tried your popper in any lakes for trout?
>
> I'm headed up to BC in June and got some smallmouth "sliders" over at
local fly shop that are a cross between an olive woolly bugger and a
reversed popper.  Similar to the ones you do except these are tied on a long
shank hook.  Well, I thought these would/could/may work for trout keying on
food on the surface.
>
> I've talked to Phil Rowley on this a couple of times and he's also curious
about what the results will be.
>
> Just trying to stir up a discussion or some thoughts.
>
> Bill Warner
>
> > ----------
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:24 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> >
> > Looks like I will be putting the Midge Cripple, that I just sent the
> > instructions to Don Shearer for, and my Zelon Callibaetis to work this
> > weekend in Spokane.
> >
> > But not till I give the Narrows a shot tomorrow morning. No callibaetis,
though.
> >
> > Leland.
> >
> >
> > >I've just learned to make posts out of yarn. You guys are so
sophisticated.
> > >I'm impressed.
> > >Les
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Leland Miyawaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:50 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'm a big fan of zelon. I have been using crinkled zelon (which I
have
> > >been
> > >> buying from Blue Ribbon Flies - dyed specifically for flytying) for
my
> > >> posts on parachute flies such as adams (callibaetis, bwo/baetis, gray
and
> > >> green drakes). I mash the posts down and they become part of the wing
> > >> impression. I have also found that the darker colors, particularly
gray,
> > >> are much more visible to me than the white or orange posts,
especially in
> > >> moving water.
> > >>
> > >> Leland.
> > >>
> > >> >Another great use of super glue.  Les mentioned the "cripple" being
a
> > >great
> > >> >pattern.  On that note, I think it is primarily due to the visible
wing;
> > >> >that to me, is the "trigger" mechanism.  Standup wings, as they
enter the
> > >> >fish's window, do not show up in the fly profile like the forward
tilting
> > >> >wing.  A great, proven pattern is the parachute.  Here CAN be an
> > >> >improvement.  Use floating yarn as a post.  It comes in grey, for a
> > >natural
> > >> >look, and visible white if that works for you to see it; other
colors as
> > >> >well.  Now, don't go sparingly with the post.  It will depend on the
size
> > >of
> > >> >the fly, but use "enough" to do the next step.  After wrapping the
> > >feather
> > >> >around the post. (I like the Mike Lawson way of finishing the fly
and
> > >then
> > >> >attatching the feather and wrapping counter-clockwise with the
feather
> > >and
> > >> >finishing off by catching the feather with the thread at the head
and
> > >> >forming the head.  When you catch it this way, you continue to
tighten
> > >the
> > >> >feather.  Now, take your thumb and push down, squawsh the post
spreading
> > >out
> > >> >the post.  Easy to do and it will make a "halo" wing around the body
with
> > >> >the front portion tilted forward.  It is visible to the fish from
all
> > >> >angles.  Put a drop of super glue right in the middle of the
> > >"halo"...wing
> > >> >stays perfect and feather won't come off.  If there is a drawback to
the
> > >> >parachute, lots of good features, but the wing profile is not as
good as
> > >the
> > >> >cripple and other patterns.....now it is.  Jere
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Les Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:07 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Right! Actually I have been using Quick Tite super glue. It comes
in a
> > >> >handy
> > >> >> little brush bottle. Gene Gudger, a chironomid junkie of the first
> > >order
> > >> >> gave me the tip.
> > >> >> Les
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----->
> > >> >> From: "Warner, Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:03 AM
> > >> >> Subject: RE: Dry Falls
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > One thing Les left out that's important unless you tie very fast
or
> > >are
> > >> >a
> > >> >> fly tying "addict" is to coat the body with either Sally Hansen's
nail
> > >> >> polish or Soft Body.    Even with a coating on the fly the fish
still
> > >rip
> > >> >> the flies up.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have a tattered chromie proudly sitting in my chironimid box
that I
> > >> >see
> > >> >> everytime I open the box up.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I've been using that pattern since last May and it seems to work
in
> > >just
> > >> >> about every chronie hatch.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Bill W
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > ----------
> > >> >> > > From: Les Johnson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> >> > > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 4:15 AM
> > >> >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> > > Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > The Chromie is a pattern listed in Phil Rowley's new book, Fly
> > >> >Patterns
> > >> >> for
> > >> >> > > Stillwaters. This is a very good chironomid that is often
quite
> > >> >> effective.
> > >> >> > > Hook: Tiemco 2457 (use any wet fly hook). Body: silver
flashabout
> > >> >> (thin).
> > >> >> > > Rib: single strand of red flashabou or red wire. throax: few
turns
> > >of
> > >> >> > > peacock herl. black bead head. Gills: tuft of white sparkle
yarn.
> > >> >> > > I bought the book. Phil Rowley knows his stuff. He is an
> > >experienced
> > >> >> > > stillwater angler who counts Gordon Honey and Brian Chan among
his
> > >> >> regular
> > >> >> > > fishing buddies. A lot of knowlege in that trio.
> > >> >> > > Good Luck!
> > >> >> > > Les Johnson
> > >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> > > From: "flyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:16 AM
> > >> >> > > Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > I hope you don't mind me asking but I don't know a lot about
fly
> > >> >> patterns.
> > >> >> > > > Is that pattern listed in a book or is it a pattern that
gets
> > >passed
> > >> >> only
> > >> >> > > > between friends?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Thank you,
> > >> >> > > > Ray  :-)
> > >> >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:43 PM
> > >> >> > > > Subject: Re: Dry Falls
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > > I fished Lenice on Monday  (may 14). Left my home in
> > >Leavenworth
> > >> >at
> > >> >> > > 4.45am
> > >> >> > > > > and was on water somewhere around 7.00am. It was cloudy ,
> > >trying
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > > rain,with
> > >> >> > > > > wind gusting very strongly. I was hopeful that if the wind
died
> > >> >down
> > >> >> > > there
> > >> >> > > > > would be a good Callibaetis hatch. Conditions remained
very
> > >> >> difficult,
> > >> >> > > > making
> > >> >> > > > > it almost impossible to anchor my tube in deep water and
fish
> > >the
> > >> >> column
> > >> >> > > > with
> > >> >> > > > > midge patterns - my favourite form of 'below the surface'
still
> > >> >> water
> > >> >> > > > > fishing. One has to watch the end of the line with the
> > >> >concentration
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> > > a
> > >> >> > > > > hungry heron, and that is close to impossible when there
is big
> > >> >wave
> > >> >> > > > action.
> > >> >> > > > > Wave action also gives the fly down below an unnatural
> > >movement,
> > >> >> which
> > >> >> > > is
> > >> >> > > > not
> > >> >> > > > > conducive to a fifty fish  day. This can be mitigated in
some
> > >> >degree
> > >> >> by
> > >> >> > > > > keeping the last third of the rod under the water which
dampens
> > >> >the
> > >> >> up
> > >> >> > > and
> > >> >> > > > > down movement  of the fly to some degree. But then you
cannot>
> > >> >watch
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > > line
> > >> >> > > > > and have to rely on the tactile sense only - again not
> > >conducive
> > >> >to
> > >> >> > > fifty
> > >> >> > > > > fish a day .............Anyway, I resigned myself to to
finning
> > >> >> close in
> > >> >> > > > to
> > >> >> > > > > shore and fishing scuds, mayfly nymphs and damsel nymphs
around
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > > tulles.
> > >> >> > > > > Action was very slow, two fish to hand by mid-day.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > I was in two minds to call it a day, but for some reason
> > >decided
> > >> >to
> > >> >> hang
> > >> >> > > > in
> > >> >> > > > > there in the hopes of the wind dropping and the promise of
a
> > >> >mayfly
> > >> >> > > > hatch -
> > >> >> > > > > exclusive of the wind, the weather was just right for one.
> > >There
> > >> >was
> > >> >> > > bird
> > >> >> > > > > action all over the lake but for the life of me I could
not see
> > >> >what
> > >> >> > > they
> > >> >> > > > > were taking , nor could I see any rising pupae or floating
> > >shucks.
> > >> >> At 67
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > > eyes are not what they used to be, but this was getting
> > >ridiculous
> > >> >> !!
> > >> >> > > > > However, at about 5.00pm the wind dropped and I saw one
mayfly,
> > >> >not
> > >> >> two
> > >> >> > > or
> > >> >> > > > > three or fifty but one, but it was enough to get the old
> > >carcass
> > >> >off
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > > > bank, into the tube and back into the fray. That was the
mayfly
> > >> >> hatch>
> > >> >> > > for
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > > day. Not a fish dimple to be seen in any direction - but
by
> > >god,
> > >> >the
> > >> >> > > wind
> > >> >> > > > was
> > >> >> > > > > down and I was going to rip fifty fishes lips or die in
the
> > >> >attempt.
> > >> >> I
> > >> >> > > > > anchored off in in deep water (for Lenice) from 5.10 pm
till
> > >7.35
> > >> >pm
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> > > > water
> > >> >> > > > > which varied from 16' to 22'; I like to know at exactly
what
> > >depth
> > >> >I
> > >> >> am
> > >> >> > > > > fishing when fishing the column; in a float tube I use a
> > >hand-held
> > >> >> depth
> > >> >> > > > > finder put out by MarCum Ent,Inc.in Minnesota. It is about
the
> > >> >size
> > >> >> of a
> > >> >> > > > > standard flash light and is used primarily by ice
fisherman.
> > >> >Cabela
> > >> >> > > sells
> > >> >> > > > > them under the name of 'Polar Vision' and they are a jewel
of a
> > >> >> tool.
> > >> >> > > With
> > >> >> > > > > this kind of sub-surface fishing I do not use a full sink
line,
> > >> >but
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > > > slowest intermediate line sold by Airflo with a fast
> > >intermediate
> > >> >8'
> > >> >> > > > leader,
> > >> >> > > > > then about 6' of 3 pound test tippet (sometimes 5 pound
test)
> > >and,
> > >> >> as I
> > >> >> > > > > choose never to weight my flies for still water use, 1
lead
> > >shot
> > >> >> crimped
> > >> >> > > > > about 12" above the fly itself. Back to business.........
I
> > >> >suceeded
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> > > > > losing the first six fish I hooked (this was becoming one
hell
> > >of
> > >> >a
> > >> >> > > day),
> > >> >> > > > > until I realised I had a bad spool of tippet material.
From
> > >then
> > >> >on
> > >> >> I
> > >> >> > > > never
> > >> >> > > > > looked back, from the time I hooked the first fish till I
quit
> > >at
> > >> >> way
> > >> >> > > > after
> > >> >> > > > > seven it really was a fish a cast.  Keep in mind it takes
time
> > >for
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > > line
> > >> >> > > > > and fly to sink and often longer to tweak it back up
again.
> > >That
> > >> >> evening
> > >> >> > > > fish
> > >> >> > > > > were breathing the fly in on the way down, on the bottom
and
> > >also
> > >> >at
> > >> >> all
> > >> >> > > > > levels on the way back. I am sure that some of these fish
were
> > >> >> following
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > > fly up before taking it , if it was still a way down they
would
> > >> >> gently
> > >> >> > > > suck
> > >> >> > > > > it in, if close to the surface they would whack  it.  I
used
> > >only
> > >> >> one
> > >> >> > > > pattern
> > >> >> > > > > of fly all evening in two sizes, my fellow countryman (if
he>
> > >still
> > >> >> > > claims
> > >> >> > > > to
> > >> >> > > > > be a Brit) Phil Rowley's Chromie in   sizes 10 and 12.  It
is a
> > >> >> > > remarkably
> > >> >> > > > > effective fly.  How many fish did I catch ?  I truly do
not
> > >know,
> > >> >I
> > >> >> have
> > >> >> > > > long
> > >> >> > > > > ago quit the counting game. However, the rainbows ranged
from
> > >17"
> > >> >to
> > >> >> 22"
> > >> >> > > > with
> > >> >> > > > >  2 small browns of about 10 to 12 inches.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > Moral of this story ?  It pays to hang in there, if you
have
> > >> >nothing
> > >> >> > > > better
> > >> >> > > > > to do.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > DAB
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