I've talked to washington state biologists who say that brookies can sucessfully spawn in lake shallows with the wind action providing the aeration. I've been to lots of high lakes in the state where there's tons of stunted brookies. bill h. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Small creek fishing report
> Speaking of brookies and the S Fork Snoqualmie, Washington Trout believes > there may be some native char (Dollies, probably not Bull Trout) in the S > Fork. If anybody believes they catch one there, WT would love to hear from > you. It may be, however, that reports of char there may actually have been > brookies. > > Ed Morrison > From the south fork of the Snoqualmie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Speaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:31 PM > Subject: RE: Small creek fishing report > > > > S Fork Snoqualmie has brookies too, but the numbers are much lower than > the > > rainbows. I'd guess there are at least 10:1 rainbows:brookies. The > > brookies are rare, a very few are good size (up to 11" to hand) and I > > actually consider them a treat up there. > > > > -tight lines- > > Jim Speaker > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sean Grier > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:02 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Small creek fishing report > > > > > > As have I. And yes, the lake did cut off the cutts (pun intended). Some > > old buddies of mine from when I lived down there get together each year > and > > use Timothy as base camp. We take the middle of the day when nothing is > > biting and fish the upper or lower Oak Grove and catch and kill brookies > > every time. Unfortunately, ODFW used to (may have quit by now) plant > > brookies in many of the Mt. Hood area lakes. > > Timothy has some monsters in it. Might be worth trying Homer's, err.... > > Phil's idea of a sculpin pattern there near the dam... My buddies should > be > > heading out right now for the annual Western Flyfishing Open IV. > > Unfortunately, being laid off has nixed my inclusion in the trip this year > > (thanks again you middle eastern terrorist ba@#$rds!!!). We'd usually go > > and try to hit the big hex hatch on Timothy and > > (somewhat) nearby Lost Lake. > > > > Sean > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I fished the Oak Grove fork above the lake, in the big meadow, a couple > > years ago and all we caught were brookies. We released them all though. I > > wonder if the formation of the lake has cut that area off from the > > cutthroats? I believe that whatever species are in the lake have the > ability > > to swim upstream to the meadow, but we didn't see anything else. > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > > > No problem, Brian. I probably came off sounding kinda snotty, anyway. > > Didn't mean to.... > > > > > > > > There's a great little stream east of Portland called the Oak Grove > fork > > of the Clackamas. Although it's a tailwater (feeding out of Timothy > Lake), > > there's still tons of beautiful wild, native coastal cutts in it up to > 16". > > The TU chapter there that I belonged to when I lived in Vancouver, WA > kinda > > took that stream as it's personal crusade. I remember during a fish > > counting outing that also doubled as > > > > a fishing expedition, we were told by the local ODFW Biologist to keep > > and kill ANY and all brooks we found. You can imagine trying to get a > bunch > > of dyed-in-the-wool C&R TU'ers to kill ANYTHING with fins, but we did. > The > > group of us were broken up into teams of two and given a beat on the > stream > > to fish and count. The guys closest to the lake, of course, caught the > > largest amount of brookies, but we > > > > all landed some. So I'm not surprised at hearing the ratios you talk > > about. Sad, very sad. Maybe we can talk to WDFW and see if they have the > > same attitude towards non-native invasive species and ways that we can > help > > return fisheries like you experienced to some level of balance. Were you > > perhaps fishing one of the tributaries of the Cispus, by chance? I've > > caught lots of brookies in the lakes > > > > feeding those tribs, though never seen any in the Cispus itself. > > > > > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sean, > > > > > I stand corrected. I should have used the wild (not planted) rather > > then native. These were definitely brookies, not dollies. We didn't catch > > any cutts in these streams. The brookies outnumbered the bows by about 10 > to > > 1. They were starting to signs of becoming stunted due to the numbers in > the > > creek. Some of the 7 inchers looked like they were about maxed > > > > out size wise. Small bodies with big heads. > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > >
