Jeff;
 
fall is  great time to fish scuds in river and lakes , there around 50 different species of scuds. they range in variety of colors: dark green,to nearly transparent watery green. also brown,red.purple and gray.
 
I fish scuds on dark overcast days. they are due to nature of the crustacean, scuds patterns most productive during low light periods of early mornings, late evening and throughout the night.
 
I tried several patterns from very fancy ones to very simple ones.
 
Simple pattern of dubbed Antron , or dubbing material picked loose after winding , and trimming the top back of it with sharp scissors , no plastic shell back need it.
When choosing the a body color a good rule of thumb is, the clearer the water the paler the food sources.
In dark full of algae lakes the good color will be in shade of Olive, Dark Olive and Brown. In muddy and stained water Browns and dark olives predominate.
 
I fihed two weeks ago very simple pattern and nice 4 pound rainbow went for it , fished wit out indicator on 3-4 " strips and pause.
 
Doub the body then counter wind cooper wire rib to complete the fly. Finish the fly by teasing the dubbing downwards and trim to a scud shape. Trim the TOP and SIDES leaving just the bottom fibers.
 
Brushing and trimming I do after I finish all my fly's , all at once. Fishing shallow waters I use weighted version in combo with floating line.
 
I use 3 sizes # 12, 14 and 16.
 
Fishing tomorrow Sub alpine lake , will use the scuds for sure.
 
Happy fishing.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Hale
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Scud patterns
 
I am interested in knowing what other scud patterns are best producers for flyfishers in our group. I have always tied and had the most success with Al Troth's scud pattern.  I usually tie it in olive and start with a heavily weighted underbody, a few hackle barbs for a tail and antenae, scud-back or plastic for the shellback, fine silver wire for the rib, and a whole lot of olive dubbing to cover up the lead and give me enough to pick out a good bunch of legs.  I find this simple fly to be more time consuming, but it works well.  However, I am looking for a quicker version, one that still allows a heavy underbody, but perhaps a wrapped body instead of dubbed, maybe with a few turns of hackle clipped for legs?????  Any suggestions?  I've tried epoxy back scuds and I don't think they are worth the effort and do not catch fish as well; but they sure look cool.  Jeff Hale


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