Bird's nests and hare's ears work as well as anything in the right size. 
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From: Lisa Hale
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:01 PM
Subject: Scud patterns

I am interested in knowing what other scud patterns are best producers for flyfishers in our group.  I have always tied and had the most success with Al Troth's scud pattern.  I usually tie it in olive and start with a heavily weighted underbody, a few hackle barbs for a tail and antenae, scud-back or plastic for the shellback, fine silver wire for the rib, and a whole lot of olive dubbing to cover up the lead and give me enough to pick out a good bunch of legs.  I find this simple fly to be more time consuming, but it works well.  However, I am looking for a quicker version, one that still allows a heavy underbody, but perhaps a wrapped body instead of dubbed, maybe with a few turns of hackle clipped for legs?????  Any suggestions?  I've tried epoxy back scuds and I don't think they are worth the effort and do not catch fish as well; but they sure look cool.  Jeff Hale

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