Looks like they voted on it a year earlier (:

On 5/6/08, Kyle Kreusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think you may want to check that document again I'm pretty sure
>  that's only the new proposed copyright laws ?
>
>  I believe the new laws do not come in effect to year 2009
>
>  Kyle
>
>  On 5/6/08, Oldham, Toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>
> >  Spot on Adam:
>  >
>  >  http://www.copyright.org.au/g097.pdf
>  >
>  >  The document appears to suggest that you should only record content from 
> TV
>  >  then watch it at a later time, but _not_ create a library or collection of
>  >  recordings. It also says you can't lend out any recordings you make, so
>  >  anyone who lends Merv a tape is still breaking the law(?).
>  >
>  >  You also still can't make legal copies of your DVDs for your iPod, but you
>  >  can with CDs and music?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On 6/5/08 4:20 PM, "Adam hewitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > As far as I understood it the laws were amended towards the end of last 
> year
>  >  > to allow recording of tv broadcasts and also to make backups of your 
> music
>  >  > cd's for use on iPods etc.
>  >  >
>  >  > A number of FTA providers now offer free downloads of the shows after 
> they
>  >  > have aired anyways, only problem is they are in DRM'ed formats and 
> require a
>  >  > specific player to view them.
>  >  >
>  >  > Adam.
>  >  >
>  >  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  >> From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>  >  >> Oldham, Toby
>  >  >> Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 3:46 PM
>  >  >> To: WAMUG Mailing List
>  >  >> Subject: Re: Off topic: Death Note
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Ah - an excellent topic of discussion.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> I believe it's illegal in Australia to record free-to-air broadcasts,
>  >  >> even
>  >  >> for personal use only (Australian Copyright Council - G079v04 - 'Fair
>  >  >> Dealing').
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Given that 99.99% of Australians ignore the law in this regard, should
>  >  >> you
>  >  >> feel bad in advocating a P2P client/service to obtain a copy of the
>  >  >> program,
>  >  >> especially as:
>  >  >>
>  >  >> A) The program has already aired in Australia and B) The program has
>  >  >> already
>  >  >> been paid for by the tax paying public.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> T.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> P.S. You could argue that P2P services are a mass distribution system
>  >  >> that
>  >  >> by their nature breach the 'for personal use only' premise, in that you
>  >  >> upload and download simultaneously.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> A VHS recording requires additional steps, i.e. effort, to generate the
>  >  >> same
>  >  >> result.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> So is it less about the act, and more about the likely-hood of the act
>  >  >> occurring?
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >> On 6/5/08 3:17 PM, "Kyle Kreusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >>> Cough cough Torrent cough Cough
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>> On 5/6/08, Mervyn & Giuliana Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >>>> I was charged with recording Death Note, ABC 2, last night and
>  >  >> forgot!!
>  >  >>>>  Did anyone make a recording that I could have a copy of and win
>  >  >> back my
>  >  >>>> daughter-in-law?
>  >  >>>>  Merv
>  >  >>>>  --
>  >  >>>>  "Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must
>  >  >> also
>  >  >>>> believe in order to see."
>  >  >>>>
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