On 13/7/09 10:43 AM, "Ronda Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 13/07/2009, at 10:02 AM, Robert Howells wrote:
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>> On 13/07/2009, at 9:35 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
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>>>> OSX is fine with eSata , almost as though it is connected to the
>>>> internal bus .
>>>>
>>>> Speed is about 6 ( yes six ) times faster than firewire 400 .
>>>>
>>>> With some arrangements you can even boot off the eSata , but that
>>>> is not possible on ALL cards
>>>> and sometimes is related to drive maker .
>>>
>>> Hi Rob & Bob,
>>>
>>> eSATA is unquestionably the fastest. But, as of mid-2008, no Macs
>>> include eSATA ports, though you can add them using a PCI or PCI-X
>>> card (for Power Mac and Mac Pro models), a PC card (for
>>> PowerBooks), or an ExpressCard/34 (for MacBook Pros). You¹ll have
>>> to decide whether the extra speed boost is worth the cost of the
>>> adapter (and, perhaps, a more-expensive drive).
>>>
>>> Only a few of the Macintosh- compatible adapters currently support
>>> booting from an eSATA drive, though that situation could change in
>>> the future.
>>> Bob, I'm interested to know what Mac "bootable" compatible adaptor
>>> you have found for Leopard?
>>
>> Hi Ronni,
>>
>> Now that is a question !
>>
>> All you people with new or near new Macs and here am I with G4 and
>> G5 ,
>>
>> My experience is with a bootable older card on a G4 tower with Tiger ,
>> As a matter of interest I will check that out in the G5 with Leopard
>> but the card is in the DIL quicksilver
>> at the moment so might be some time before I can try .
>>
>> The specific card was similar to this
>> <http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/SATA1ESE2//
>>>
>> but mine has only the 1 connector . It will also boot OS9 .
>>
>> In all my reading I have only ever seen the Seretek cards as being
>> bootable , but not all of them .
>>
>> I also have an old Lacie card , and there is no way it will boot !
>>
>> People with a Tower with internal SATA bus and Sata hard drives
>> potentially have
>> an option to connect an external connector in the place of the
>> provided 2 nd hard drive
>> position on the back plane .
>>
>> That is what I am using in the G5 ... you lose the ability to instal
>> a 2nd drive
>> but gain the flexibility of connecting in turn to any number of
>> external drives.
>> That option costs less than $20 !
>>
>> SORRY , cannot do with an Imac or Laptop .
>>
>> Bob
>
> Thanks Bob for your reply.
>
> I knew the Question ... but thought you might have the Answer ;-)
> The older machines "sometimes" have it over the new machines ... hey
> Bob?
>
> There are a few adapters for my MacBook Pro that "say" they are
> bootable, OWC's eSATA SATA I/II ExpressCard/34 adapter
> <http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/EXP34SATA2P1/>
>
> I will make do with Firewire 800 and backing up to my 4TB Drives in
> DROBO.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> PS. it's Cloe's 13th Birthday today. We are off for her favourite walk
> and then a picnic in the park with her little buddies
>
>
>
>
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I'm sure I had read it somewhere.
Isn't it true with eSATA that you can't "hotswap" a drive like you can with
Firewire and USB2. That is, if you unmount the drive you physically have to
restart the machine for it to show back up again and that you can't just
plug and unplug for it to show up again like you can with a Firewire Drive?
As mentioned, I could be wrong, just something I thought I'd read/seen
somewhere.
That was one disadvantage I always thought with eSATA, it was a bit like
SCSI was back then.
Oh, and as a side note, MacPro's if they want to add eSATA can actually sort
of trick the machine, as they have 2 "hidden" SATA ports under the left hand
side on the port. You can actually run a couple to one of these then out to
a eSATA PCI card, so you don't then lose any of the hard drive bays. (Though
with 4 Hard Drive bays on a MacPro you've got lots anyway,...)
Kind Regards
Daniel
PS Happy birthday Cloe. ;)
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