Hi
I must admit looking at Gmail but was deterred  by the unavailability of simple 
short names. (or even reasonable length) I know this is inevitable with the 
quantity of people around the world but it does make a difference. I would have 
thought that Gmail could have had some additional domain names which would 
increase availability of names two to tenfold.
Regards
Peter
On 31/12/2009, at 1:33 PM, Graeme Winters wrote:

> 
> Thank you Glenn for you helpful comments
> Now retired and active with family history am not sure that I have a need for 
> a domain name
> I attempted to obtain a gmail address today and met unexpected difficulties
> I attempted to use an address similar to that currently being used but 
> received an error message that I should only use letters between a-z, numbers 
> between 1-9 and periods.
> I was not told the address selected was not available just to use letters and 
> numbers as above.
> 
> That I have done several times using variations including numbers with 
> g.winters but the error message has remained the same
> Have scanned a range of common problems on gmail's site but cannot identify 
> this one
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Graeme
> On 31/12/2009, at 2:12 PM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Graeme,
>> 
>> Separating your email address from your ISP is important for several reasons.
>> 
>> If your email is owned by your ISP, you have created a major reason to
>> not move ISPs, even if there are better options available to you.
>> Broadband options are only going to increase, and it won't help to see
>> a great new broadband offer if you can't take it up without disrupting
>> your email. Changing email address takes a while, you need to have the
>> old and new operating together and give people some time to make the
>> change, so best to get it organised well before  changing ISP.
>> 
>> If you run a business, it presents a much better image if you use your
>> business domain for your email - an ISP based email address may create
>> a bad impression.
>> 
>> Getting your own domain based email is inexpensive.
>> 
>> Register a domain with a domain registrar - a fee of between $10-25/yr
>> will get you a domain from a good registrar (although some charge a
>> lot more than this).
>> 
>> Most domain registrars offer fairly cheap email hosting services,
>> although they may be quite basic and not include spam/virus filtering
>> features.
>> 
>> If you are prepared to find out how to create your own MX records
>> (some domain registrars offer a DNS Hosting service to enable this,
>> others do it for free), you can use Google Apps Standard Edition. This
>> is a free service from Google that gives you full strength Gmail (7Gb
>> mailbox, 20Mb message sizes, POP/IMAP), Calendar and Docs accounts at
>> your domain e.g [email protected]
>> Google Apps: http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html
>> Setting up MX records - US registrars:
>> http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=140034
>> General MX setup: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=48242
>> 
>> Google Apps Standard Edition is a great service. Note Google also
>> offer a Premium edition that costs $50/yr per account - for that you
>> get a 25Gb mailbox size rather than 7Gb, and access to a support line.
>> The Standard edition works fine - Google's sign up process is designed
>> to entice you to the Premium, so don't get distracted if you just want
>> Standard.
>> 
>> Glenn Nicholas
>> OM4 ::
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2009/12/30 Graeme Winters <[email protected]>:
>>> Hi David
>>> You raise an interesting point with gmail
>>> I have been a long standing iinet user and while I do not have a problem
>>> with them I just feel that separating my ISP from my email may be in my best
>>> interests in the longer term
>>> I use their voip system so my calls are bundled with my internet service
>>> Do others see a benefit in separating the 2 functions?
>>> Graeme
>>> On 30/12/2009, at 7:58 PM, David Noel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brett --
>>> 
>>> -- I've been meaning to put in a message about all the virtues of using
>>> gmail. I haven't put the necessary thought into this as yet, but here is an
>>> instance where it could be good for you.
>>> 
>>> -- When you have set up a gmail account, you can ask it to check your other
>>> email accounts (obviously you have to tell it your passwords for these) and
>>> to forward on these messages to your gmail account. If you want, it will
>>> then delete these messages from the other account.
>>> 
>>> -- Most of the other advantages of gmail are the extensive free space
>>> available (currently 7.4 Gb for each user), which with message labelling and
>>> whole-of-area search means you never have to worry about email backups or
>>> deletes again. You can send messages to yourself with data files attached,
>>> as aquick backup of your current working file, scan of your passport, etc,
>>> these are then permanently available anywhere in the world. HTH.
>>> 
>>> Cheers --
>>> 
>>> David Noel
>>> 2009 Dec 30
>>> 
>>> ============
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Brett Carboni <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, I'm thinking of changing from Bigpond to TPG but my
>>>> "bigpond.net.au" email address is over 10 years old and I don't want to 
>>>> lose
>>>> contacts.
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to get a nominal account which will let me keep this active.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of an emailing program which will let you address an
>>>> email to everyone in your Mail.app database so you can do a bulk mail out
>>>> saying you have changed your email address?
>>>> 
>>>> T.I.A.
>>>> 
>>>> Brett
>>>> Tsunami
>>>> 
>>>> 
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