Hi RobD

I'm not on wireless no no one is hopping on to my line, but slow speeds occur 
when the line is busy. Now, Saturday morning, the speed is down to 50KBs 
whereas is should be over 200.   There is no doubt in my mind that it is either 
a fault on the line or the inability of the exchange to cope with increased 
traffic.

I have had my line within the house checked by iinet and by my own telco. I 
have a new modem (Billion 7800N) and a central splitter.

Similar problems with Westnet have been reported on Whirlpool so now I'm 
waiting for Westnet/iinet to get off their butt and fix it.

Cheers

John 


John Daniels
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On 16/06/2011, at 11:56 PM, Rob Davies wrote:

> 
> John,
> 
> No I was searching for an outside source tapping your connection.
> TIME of Day hints at some source which is constant. 
> Normally neighbour returns from school or work utilising your Wireless 
> connection?
> 
> As Ronni already hinted at, ADSL does not usually suffer from such a large 
> reduction in speed for a period, then returns to normal.
> 
> Machines are not being scheduled to do something, no new software installed?
> 
> That it is a daily update period normally these are AM not PM.
> But, it could just have the wrong location hence, hemispheres...
> 
> Activity spikes of a Server??
> 
> Hence, the questioning?
> 
> Question neighbours if same issues? 
> ISP connection direct to exchange or a sub-exchange..
> 
> Monitor Activity on machines at this time of day for any activity.
> Firewall is running on all machines, and modem has firewall, NAT functioning?
> 
> Cheers!
> `RobD...
> 
> On 16Jun2011, at 8:15 pm, John Daniels wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Rob
>> 
>> I have cable connection to the router and ethernet to a second Mac.
>> 
>> I have tried wireless between the two Macs and found no difference in speed.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/06/2011, at 1:15 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> Does your abode have a wireless connection/hub/server, or other servers 
>>> running of your ADSL connection?
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> `RobD...
>>> 
>>> On 15Jun2011, at 10:39 am, John Daniels wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi James
>>>> No There is no noise on my line but the attenuation is usually around 60.
>>>> I am getting about 230KBs this morning (1.84Mbs).
>>>> The Westnet contractor has been and finds no fault on my line or at the 
>>>> exchange and of course my speed is OK.
>>>> The drop in speed always occurs when people are home from work or school 
>>>> and weekends particularly.
>>>> Westnet (iinet) are monitoring the line and will send another technician 
>>>> if the speed drops again.
>>>> Thank you for  your suggestions and input. I will pass on the final result 
>>>> if there is one.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/06/2011, at 8:19 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> just my 2c to add to Ronni's comment
>>>>> i was called in to followup a problem like this & found that the wiring 
>>>>> in the 'junction box' in the roof was loose (very poorly done)
>>>>> in an other case there was the connection/ loop through in the kitchen 
>>>>> not done (the wires layed paralell & thus the high frequency could pass 
>>>>> through)
>>>>> you are sure you have no funny noise on the line (just dial a 0 & listen 
>>>>> a few seconds if there is silence
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> SAD Technic
>>>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
>>>>> Bayswater WA
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> +618 9370 5307
>>>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
>>>>> disappear and obstacles vanish.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 14/06/2011, at 9:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14/06/2011, at 6:50 PM, John Daniels wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am still being plagued with a big reduction in speed in the evening. 
>>>>>>> Up until 3.20pm it was 162KBs, then went to 90KBs and 50KBs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anyone else on Hammersley Exchange experienced this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> More details might help you get some advice.
>>>>>> What Modem?
>>>>>> What sync / attenuation stats is your modem reporting? (Line Speed / 
>>>>>> Attenuation / Noise details)
>>>>>> What MTU setting do you have on your modem router? The MTU setting of 
>>>>>> your router will lead to performance issues if set too high or too low.
>>>>>> The normal MTU (Maximum Transmit Unit) value for most Ethernet Networks 
>>>>>> is 1500 Bytes, or 1492 Bytes for PPPoE connections. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried an Isolation Test?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Isolation Test
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, you are on ADSL or ADSL2/2+ and are having some problems, someone 
>>>>>> has told you to do an isolation test and you have no idea what that is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is an Isolation test
>>>>>> Basically an Isolation test is when you remove all telephony devices in 
>>>>>> your premises from the phone line. These can include ADSL filters, 
>>>>>> phones, faxes, answering machines, Foxtel Digital (or any other Digital 
>>>>>> PayTV), EFTPOS machines, back-to-base alarm systems, dialup modems, 
>>>>>> medical alterting systems etc – basically anything that plugs into the 
>>>>>> phone line.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After all devices have been removed, plug your ADSL broadband modem 
>>>>>> directly into the first phone socket into the house, bypassing any ADSL 
>>>>>> filters/splitters (just to eliminate these as a possible problem). The 
>>>>>> first socket is generally the one in the common area of the house 
>>>>>> (kitchen or lounge/front room), but you may have to consider where the 
>>>>>> line comes into the house and trace it if necessary – especially if 
>>>>>> multiple sockets have been installed. Use the shortest phone cable you 
>>>>>> have (ie 1-2m), and try another phone cable if there is no luck with the 
>>>>>> first. Try various phone sockets in the house if what you think is the 
>>>>>> first socket doesn't work; it's not impossible for a single socket to 
>>>>>> have a fault, and if the house has a central filter fitted then some 
>>>>>> sockets may have no ADSL signal at all by design.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Monitor the Internet connection for the difficulty you were experiencing 
>>>>>> to see if it clears. If the problem is still there, refer notes below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the difficulty you were experiencing clears, then you can connect one 
>>>>>> filter and one telephony device to your phone line, and monitor your 
>>>>>> internet connection again for the difficulty you were experiencing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> By connecting telephony devices one by one, and testing your internet 
>>>>>> connection each time when you add another device, this process of 
>>>>>> elimination should single out the telephony device which causes 
>>>>>> difficulty with your Internet connection. Bear in mind that since adding 
>>>>>> a single telephony device will introduce a piece of equipment, a filter 
>>>>>> and a line cord into the circuit, *any one of these things* could 
>>>>>> introduce a fault into the circuit – be prepared to swap equipment 
>>>>>> around and test rigorously.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is the purpose for doing an Isolation test
>>>>>> If you are having issues with things like your connection dropping out 
>>>>>> (modem losing ADSL sync), noise/static on your phone line, slower speeds 
>>>>>> than usual, then this test can help isolate the issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All these issues are often caused by some form of interference induced 
>>>>>> into line, which could be a result of bad filters, dodgy phone cables, 
>>>>>> malfunctioning telephony equipment, or even nearby electrical devices. 
>>>>>> Ensure that "pest-it" and other electronic rodent repellers (like the 
>>>>>> devices Dick Smith and others sell) are removed from power points – 
>>>>>> these often cause problems with ADSL signals. The same goes for any 
>>>>>> electrical equipment capable of generating an electromagnetic field, 
>>>>>> such as fridges/freezers, air conditioners, compressors, cordless 
>>>>>> phones, microwave ovens, flourescent lights etc. This alone is a good 
>>>>>> argument for not using extension cords, as they act as an antenna for 
>>>>>> electromagnetic interference induction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Notes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  • If after you have done all this and still having issues, it isn't 
>>>>>> always a problem with your line outside your house (Telstra's boundary), 
>>>>>> it sometimes could be an issue with your internal wiring (eg a mouse 
>>>>>> could've chewed the wires in your roof). Issues can also arise with 
>>>>>> corroded cabling/sockets, problems with hardwired equipment that can't 
>>>>>> be removed (alarm systems, wallphones, ringer bells), or internal 
>>>>>> cabling that won't support ADSL due to faulty installation – the latter 
>>>>>> is why you try all the sockets.
>>>>>>  • If after you have done all this and still having issues, it isn't 
>>>>>> always a problem with your line outside your house or your internal 
>>>>>> wiring. It may be possible that your modem has gone faulty and would be 
>>>>>> good if possible to test with another modem.
>>>>>> If you have completed your isolation tests and still have no ADSL 
>>>>>> connection, an unstable connection, or a poor speed issue etc, it's time 
>>>>>> to escalate the problem to your ISP and let them launch an investigation 
>>>>>> for you. It's in your best interest to complete this process first 
>>>>>> though for several reasons:
>>>>>>          • If the problem is on your end, you can clear it quickly 
>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>          • Your ISP will ask you to do it anyway, both for speed and to 
>>>>>> protect you – see point 3 below.
>>>>>>          • If a Telstra tech finds the problem is beyond the Telstra 
>>>>>> Network Boundary Point (NBP), they not only charge you a large (in the 
>>>>>> hundreds) exhorbitant fee, but they leave the problem as is and walk 
>>>>>> away. This is because any and all wiring, sockets, equipment and 
>>>>>> connections downstream/past the NBP are your privately owned equipment, 
>>>>>> which Telstra will not service. Doing your isolation test thoroughly 
>>>>>> eliminates this as an issue, protects you from being charged this fee, 
>>>>>> and allows you to correct any issues with your own equipment more 
>>>>>> quickly than waiting for a Telstra tech to do so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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