hi Jewels

You may not have seen my post in regards to this as well, so have reposted it 
again, below.


Kind regards
Daniel
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Shift Key Problems
> Date: 9 February 2012 12:34:02 AM AWST
> To: wamug@wamug.org.au
> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> Hi Jewels
> 
> I'd try the keyboard on another machine and see if it does the same thing 
> (either running 10.5.8 or later OS). If it does, then yes could be something 
> with the keyboard. If it doesn't then it means it's something more software 
> related.
> What machine is it running on?
> Do you have any other System Preferences loaded (eg something like USB 
> Overdrive, Logitech Controller or Microsoft Mouse or something like that). 
> (Would normally appear under "Others" in System Preferences.
> 
> The "old" F12 to eject from the Keyboard came from the days when the keyboard 
> didn't have eject, so it would override with the F12 key to do that. So just 
> wondering if something is "holding that setting".
> 
> What was the keyboard for the new one? Was it one of the small little ones, 
> sort of like the current Wireless ones? (well size wise I mean) :o)
> 
> There were a couple of other things to try, but I don't have it in front me 
> at the moment so will look up later. But see how you go with the above first.
> 
> Oh, in System Preferences - Keyboard then Keyboard Shortcuts you could click 
> "Restore Defaults" (incase something in there is holding it over). If you've 
> set your own Keyboard settings, they'll need to be redone as well).
> 
> (I booted off a laptop I'm working on at the moment from a USB 10.5.8) and 
> plugged in a Keyboard and the keys worked as they should (F10 muted the 
> sound, F11 turned the Sound down, F12 turned the sound up)
> 
> I'd say PRAM reset, but from memory that doesn't do much for the 
> keyboard,...lol
> 
> I also had a feeling that some certain hardware with 10.5.8 didn't know how 
> to read the "new" keyboards correctly. Just trying to find where I had read 
> that, or came across it with a machine I'd once worked on.....many moons 
> again,...lol
> 
> Also have a look in Users/yourname/LibraryKeyboard Layouts. Do you have 
> anything files or anything in there?
> 
> Let us know how you go, and I'll keep racking my brain while fixing a laptop 
> for a client... ;)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
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> 
> On 08/02/2012, at 10:18 PM, Julie Bedford wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> Its definitely an apple keyboard, with the figures extension on the  
>> side.
>> Using OS 10.5.8 - is it possible for the keyboard to be questionable ?
>> 
>> Jewels
>> 
>> On 08/02/2012, at 7:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jewels,
>>> 
>>> I have just assumed you are using an Apple Keyboard?
>>> 
>>> The behaviour you are experiencing is making me think you are NOT  
>>> using an Apple Keyboard.
>>> Many third-party Non-Apple keyboards assign the eject function to  
>>> the "F12" key.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>> 
>>> On 08/02/2012, at 6:46 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni & Neil
>>>> 
>>>> I've ticked all all boxes under Keyboard Shortcuts, with the Keyboard
>>>> - Use All F1, F2 etc ticked, then tried the same with the Use All F1,
>>>> F2 unticked - still no luck
>>>> 
>>>> Also have followed Neil's instructions - still no luck.  Tried with
>>>> the fn and F12 keys and the dvd ejects, tried again just F12 and the
>>>> dvd draw ejects again.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jewels
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jewels,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are in Leopard, so check also in System Preferences > Exposé &
>>>>> Spaces
>>>>> Exposé … Show Desktop  F11
>>>>> Dashboard … Hide & Show F12
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jewels,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In System Preferences > Keyboard  select (✔) Use all F1, F2, etc
>>>>>> keys as standard functions keys
>>>>>> The in System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts select
>>>>>> (✔) all the keys.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:19 PM, Julie Bedford wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Ronni
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm really grateful you give up your time to assist us all - so
>>>>>>> thank
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tried F11 & F12 together with the FN key, still the same. so
>>>>>>> went into the Keyboard Shortcuts and unticked F11 &F12 and now
>>>>>>> they do
>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>> Sorry I've probably completely misunderstood you ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't worry if you are busy right now, I'm sure I can survive
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Jewels
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry Jewels,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’m rushing & doing too many things at once today & haven’t
>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>> you the full details :-(
>>>>>>>> System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts
>>>>>>>> You will notice the key you have been pressing on the keyboard is
>>>>>>>> probably set to ‘Show Desktop’ or ‘Hide Open Windows’
>>>>>>>> which pushes
>>>>>>>> all open windows to the side and just shows your desktop. Just
>>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>>> it again for all your windows to come back.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To use that key to change your sound you need to press the fn key
>>>>>>>> and F12 key.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with your new Keyboard.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 3:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you in Lion or Snow Leopard?
>>>>>>>>> The volume keys (& all the top keys) are Function keys.
>>>>>>>>> Check in System Preferences > Keyboard to see what F12 is set to
>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 1:30 PM, Julie Bedford wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this has any relation, but I purchased a new  
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>> week and now find that when I turn the sound volume up or  
>>>>>>>>>> down on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard, all I get is shifting to the side of whatever is
>>>>>>>>>> opened on
>>>>>>>>>> my desktop.  I was thinking about returning it, but possibly
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>> be a more obvious cause that I am unaware of.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Jewels
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