Hi Daniel Thanks for the link of Spark, am downloading now and see how I go.
Cheers Jewels On 15/02/2012, at 1:25 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: > Hi Jewels > > Yes, saw that come in after my forward of the other one. Wasn't sure > if you'd seen it, so just in case,.. All good. > After flicking over a few more forum posts, I would think yes it has > to do with 10.5.8 and the mapping of the keyboard versus the "new > keyboard" layout. > From some of the posts here, it seems to suggest similar things. > <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3233475?start=0&tstart=0> > <http://www.motherboardpoint.com/re-aluminum-keyboard-screwy-mapping-t233096.html > > > > <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3365609?start=0&tstart=0> > <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3440453?start=0&tstart=0> > They do seem to suggest that on some machines with Leopard (10.5.8) > the key mapping doesn't always "match" and gives differing results. > > One solution was to download a free program called Spark and remap > the keys > <http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14352/spark> > (Amongst other programs, plus that one does more as well) > > Apparently when the machine was upgraded to 10.6.8 the keyboard did > what it was meant to do in relation to the keys. > > So, not sure if that really helps or "solves" the problem as such, > but gives a bit more idea. > I would have read more, but the eyes are tiring after a long day and > I'll start seeing double soon...lol. > Better finish the other work, before I fall asleep at the > desk,...lol. Then Ronni will tell me off :) LOL. > > Kind regards > Daniel > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Macintosh** > > On 15/02/2012, at 1:11 AM, Julie Bedford wrote: > >> Hi Daniel, >> >> I was just answering all the help emails I had received, you should >> have received my reply by now? >> >> CHeers >> Jewels >> On 15/02/2012, at 1:00 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >> >>> hi Jewels >>> >>> You may not have seen my post in regards to this as well, so have >>> reposted it again, below. >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Macintosh** >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Subject: Re: Shift Key Problems >>>> Date: 9 February 2012 12:34:02 AM AWST >>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>> >>>> Hi Jewels >>>> >>>> I'd try the keyboard on another machine and see if it does the same >>>> thing (either running 10.5.8 or later OS). If it does, then yes >>>> could be something with the keyboard. If it doesn't then it means >>>> it's something more software related. >>>> What machine is it running on? >>>> Do you have any other System Preferences loaded (eg something like >>>> USB Overdrive, Logitech Controller or Microsoft Mouse or something >>>> like that). (Would normally appear under "Others" in System >>>> Preferences. >>>> >>>> The "old" F12 to eject from the Keyboard came from the days when >>>> the keyboard didn't have eject, so it would override with the F12 >>>> key to do that. So just wondering if something is "holding that >>>> setting". >>>> >>>> What was the keyboard for the new one? Was it one of the small >>>> little ones, sort of like the current Wireless ones? (well size >>>> wise I mean) :o) >>>> >>>> There were a couple of other things to try, but I don't have it in >>>> front me at the moment so will look up later. But see how you go >>>> with the above first. >>>> >>>> Oh, in System Preferences - Keyboard then Keyboard Shortcuts you >>>> could click "Restore Defaults" (incase something in there is >>>> holding it over). If you've set your own Keyboard settings, they'll >>>> need to be redone as well). >>>> >>>> (I booted off a laptop I'm working on at the moment from a USB >>>> 10.5.8) and plugged in a Keyboard and the keys worked as they >>>> should (F10 muted the sound, F11 turned the Sound down, F12 turned >>>> the sound up) >>>> >>>> I'd say PRAM reset, but from memory that doesn't do much for the >>>> keyboard,...lol >>>> >>>> I also had a feeling that some certain hardware with 10.5.8 didn't >>>> know how to read the "new" keyboards correctly. Just trying to find >>>> where I had read that, or came across it with a machine I'd once >>>> worked on.....many moons again,...lol >>>> >>>> Also have a look in Users/yourname/LibraryKeyboard Layouts. Do you >>>> have anything files or anything in there? >>>> >>>> Let us know how you go, and I'll keep racking my brain while fixing >>>> a laptop for a client... ;) >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>> >>>> On 08/02/2012, at 10:18 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Its definitely an apple keyboard, with the figures extension on >>>>> the >>>>> side. >>>>> Using OS 10.5.8 - is it possible for the keyboard to be >>>>> questionable ? >>>>> >>>>> Jewels >>>>> >>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 7:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just assumed you are using an Apple Keyboard? >>>>>> >>>>>> The behaviour you are experiencing is making me think you are NOT >>>>>> using an Apple Keyboard. >>>>>> Many third-party Non-Apple keyboards assign the eject function to >>>>>> the "F12" key. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 6:46 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Ronni & Neil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've ticked all all boxes under Keyboard Shortcuts, with the >>>>>>> Keyboard >>>>>>> - Use All F1, F2 etc ticked, then tried the same with the Use >>>>>>> All F1, >>>>>>> F2 unticked - still no luck >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also have followed Neil's instructions - still no luck. Tried >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the fn and F12 keys and the dvd ejects, tried again just F12 and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> dvd draw ejects again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Jewels >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are in Leopard, so check also in System Preferences > >>>>>>>> Exposé & >>>>>>>> Spaces >>>>>>>> Exposé … Show Desktop F11 >>>>>>>> Dashboard … Hide & Show F12 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:26 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In System Preferences > Keyboard select (✔) Use all F1, F2, >>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>> keys as standard functions keys >>>>>>>>> The in System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts >>>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>>> (✔) all the keys. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:19 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm really grateful you give up your time to assist us all >>>>>>>>>> - so >>>>>>>>>> thank >>>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tried F11 & F12 together with the FN key, still the same. so >>>>>>>>>> went into the Keyboard Shortcuts and unticked F11 &F12 and >>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>> they do >>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>> Sorry I've probably completely misunderstood you ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't worry if you are busy right now, I'm sure I can survive >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Jewels >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 4:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry Jewels, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m rushing & doing too many things at once today & >>>>>>>>>>> haven’t >>>>>>>>>>> given >>>>>>>>>>> you the full details :-( >>>>>>>>>>> System Preferences > Keyboard - Keyboard Shortcuts >>>>>>>>>>> You will notice the key you have been pressing on the >>>>>>>>>>> keyboard is >>>>>>>>>>> probably set to ‘Show Desktop’ or ‘Hide Open >>>>>>>>>>> Windows’ >>>>>>>>>>> which pushes >>>>>>>>>>> all open windows to the side and just shows your desktop. >>>>>>>>>>> Just >>>>>>>>>>> press >>>>>>>>>>> it again for all your windows to come back. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To use that key to change your sound you need to press the >>>>>>>>>>> fn key >>>>>>>>>>> and F12 key. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing wrong with your new Keyboard. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 3:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jewels, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you in Lion or Snow Leopard? >>>>>>>>>>>> The volume keys (& all the top keys) are Function keys. >>>>>>>>>>>> Check in System Preferences > Keyboard to see what F12 is >>>>>>>>>>>> set to >>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/02/2012, at 1:30 PM, Julie Bedford wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if this has any relation, but I purchased a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>>>>>>> week and now find that when I turn the sound volume up or >>>>>>>>>>>>> down on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard, all I get is shifting to the side of whatever is >>>>>>>>>>>>> opened on >>>>>>>>>>>>> my desktop. 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