I also agree with you Daniel.  In fact, I don't think Ronni should be  
paying a cent.

Jewels
On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

> I am with you Daniel.
> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ?
>
> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>
>> Hi Adrian
>>
>> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up  
>> is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the  
>> WAMUG list.
>> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120  
>> "corporate" fee.
>> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the  
>> ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain  
>> name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let  
>> alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for  
>> no reimbursement to keep it all running.
>> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far.
>> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one  
>> off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will  
>> charge for email or phone support on a one off basis.
>> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living,  
>> overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world  
>> today unfortunately.
>> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's  
>> asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So  
>> she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o)
>>
>> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to  
>> look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the  
>> mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the  
>> amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much  
>> of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the  
>> new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now  
>> requires.
>>
>> Just my take on it. :o)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>>
>> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are  
>> meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal  
>> stuff, etc etc,… ;o)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>>
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au>
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>
>>
>> **For everything Apple**
>>
>> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning all,
>>>
>>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any  
>>> thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a  
>>> better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members  
>>> i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more  
>>> remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there  
>>> would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the  
>>> amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list.  I also  
>>> think another point that may be worth considering is that many of  
>>> the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or  
>>> functions either at all or even occasionally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> adrianske...@me.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Wamuggers,
>>>>
>>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a  
>>>> meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG  
>>>> members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone  
>>>> will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a  
>>>> response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a  
>>>> life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG  
>>>> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change.
>>>>
>>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our  
>>>> survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay  
>>>> the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per  
>>>> year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay  
>>>> for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings,  
>>>> and generally to keep WAMUG running.
>>>>
>>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your  
>>>> subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting  
>>>> to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that  
>>>> we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available  
>>>> at this link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/
>>>>
>>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for  
>>>> your continued support of WAMUG.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> WAMUG Committee
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> Stephen Chape
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