I dont have a problem with paying the $30 in fact I have felt a bit guilty for years because I never got around to it before. I was only thinking of those pensioners and the like who may be doing it a bit tough with the recent and substantial increase in the cost of living. I daresay that if anyone is in difficulty with it they will either drop out or plead their own case.
Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 10/06/2012, at 2:53 PM, Tim Law wrote: > Whilst I agree with all the points regarding the cost/benefit of membership, > one of the points Adrian made was regarding attending flesh ware, face to > face, meetings, BBQ's etc., and forgive my assumption Adrian, I think you > feel that a discounted membership should be given to people who don't want to > join in with the face to face meetings. I see the opposite. > > If I recall correctly, the results of the survey indicated that the majority > of WAMUG list members did not attend face to face meetings, me included. For > me, WAMUG IS the mailing list, and $30 is a pretty reasonable fee. There > could be gold coin donation for face to face meetings help cover costs of the > bikkies. :-) > > Tim > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10/06/2012, at 2:32 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> I also agree with you Daniel. In fact, I don't think Ronni should be >> paying a cent. >> >> Jewels >> On 10/06/2012, at 1:57 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: >> >>> I am with you Daniel. >>> PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ? >>> >>> On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Adrian >>>> >>>> I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up >>>> is actually pretty good for what is actually "supplied" for the >>>> WAMUG list. >>>> They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 >>>> "corporate" fee. >>>> And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the >>>> ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain >>>> name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let >>>> alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for >>>> no reimbursement to keep it all running. >>>> I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far. >>>> If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one >>>> off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will >>>> charge for email or phone support on a one off basis. >>>> There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, >>>> overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world >>>> today unfortunately. >>>> I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's >>>> asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So >>>> she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o) >>>> >>>> I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to >>>> look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the >>>> mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the >>>> amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much >>>> of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the >>>> new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now >>>> requires. >>>> >>>> Just my take on it. :o) >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Daniel >>>> >>>> *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are >>>> meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal >>>> stuff, etc etc,… ;o) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Daniel Kerr >>>> MacWizardry >>>> >>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>> >>>> >>>> **For everything Apple** >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning all, >>>>> >>>>> For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any >>>>> thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a >>>>> better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members >>>>> i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more >>>>> remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there >>>>> would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the >>>>> amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list. I also >>>>> think another point that may be worth considering is that many of >>>>> the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or >>>>> functions either at all or even occasionally. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> adrianske...@me.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Wamuggers, >>>>>> >>>>>> After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a >>>>>> meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG >>>>>> members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone >>>>>> will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a >>>>>> response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a >>>>>> life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG >>>>>> members in any case, most of you will not notice any change. >>>>>> >>>>>> The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our >>>>>> survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay >>>>>> the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per >>>>>> year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay >>>>>> for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings, >>>>>> and generally to keep WAMUG running. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your >>>>>> subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting >>>>>> to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that >>>>>> we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available >>>>>> at this link: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ >>>>>> >>>>>> We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for >>>>>> your continued support of WAMUG. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> WAMUG Committee >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Stephen Chape >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
