Hi Ronni Many thanks for this clarification.
In my ignorance I disabled Java and Javascript and then found I could not access Westpac on-line to pay my Visa bill. I rushed up to the bank to pay in person, but unfortunately they had just closed. After reading your latest message I re-enabled Javascript and now find access to Westpac banking is OK. My thanks for your timely information - and for saving me a late payment fee! Regards Marlene Oostryck On 16/01/2013, at 4:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Hi Merv (sorry about calling you Bill), > > A similar discussion is going on today on GMUG (who I also give my support > to). > A few members were confusing Java and JavaScript, so I posted this to GMUG. > Might be also of interest to WAMUG members. > > DON'T get confused with Java and JavaScript... They are completely different! > > The JavaScript programming language, developed by Netscape, Inc., is not part > of the Java platform. > JavaScript, does not create applets or stand-alone applications. In its most > common form today, JavaScript resides inside HTML documents, and can provide > levels of interactivity to web pages that are not achievable with simple > HTML. > > What are the differences between Java and JavaScript? > > Java and JavaScript are completely different, and are related only by the > inclusion of "Java" in the name. > The inclusion of the "Java" name in "JavaScript" was the result of a > co-marketing arrangement between Netscape and Sun Microsystems back when > Netscape was a dominant web browser, in exchange for Netscape bundling Java > Runtime Environment (JRE) with its browser. > > Java is a programming language designed to run applets in a Java Virtual > Machine on any computer/device that supports a Java Virtual Machine. Java > applets generally do not interact with the Web page itself, but usually runs > as a "standalone" program embedded in a Web page. ParaChat software offers a > Java applet option so you can embed a Java chat room in your web page. > > JavaScript (originally known as "LiveScript") is a scripting language that > runs inside of an Internet browser to manipulate and enhance the contents of > Web pages. JavaScript is designed to expand the capabilities of a web page so > that it behaves more like a program than just a static page of text and > images. > > Key differences between the Java and JavaScript. > * Java is an OOP ( object oriented programming) language while Java Script is > an OOP scripting language. > * Java creates applications that run in a virtual machine or browser while > JavaScript code is run on a browser only. > * Java code needs to be compiled while JavaScript code are all in text. > * They require different plug-ins. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > On 16/01/2013, at 3:59 PM, Merv Bond <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Ronni >> In my life I have been called many things. I had no objection to being >> called Bill as my second name is William. >> Thank you for the many points you have clarified on this string. >> Cheers >> Merv >> >> On 16/01/13 2:11 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>> >>> On 16/01/2013, at 11:17 AM, Bill Parker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Ronni, >>>> >>>> Another Bill here. >>> >>> Hi the real Bill, I thought I was originally replying to you; but it was >>> Merv (I am supposed to be on a break from WAMUG so that is my excuse for >>> using the incorrect name :-) >>>> >>>> Just looking at my Firefox Plugins and see Adobe Acrobat NPAPI 10.1.5 >>> >>> That plugin is for viewing PDFs in Firefox with Adobe Reader instead of the >>> Preview application. >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> Java Applet 14.5.0 >>> >>> Mozilla has announced that they are also now blocking the Java plug-in >>> unless the user specifically authorizes it to run by clicking on the >>> warning message for the plug-in. >>> <https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/01/11/protecting-users-against-java-vulnerability/> >>>> >>>> I have no other Java named plug-ins. >>> >>> Is Firefox the only web browser you have installed? If not check any other >>> Web Browser. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> On 15/01/2013, at 8:13 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>> >>>>> Java has not been safe for some time, we have recommended on WAMUG before >>>>> that you disable Java in your Web Browsers. >>>>> >>>>> In Safari - Disable Java >>>>> 1. Safari > Preferences, select Security >>>>> 2. DON'T have a tick in "Enable Java" >>>>> >>>>> Disabling Java in Safari is highly recommended for safe computing. >>>>> You should enable it only when on a trusted site that requires it. >>>>> >>>>> In Firefox: >>>>> 1. Open Firefox and click the Firefox button -> Add-ons (Tools -> Add-ons >>>>> in Linux, OS X and Windows XP). >>>>> 2. Choose the Plugins tab. >>>>> 3. Select the Java plugin(s) and click disable. >>>>> >>>>> "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is urging computer users to >>>>> disable or uninstall Java due to a serious flaw in Runtime Environment >>>>> (JRE) 7. >>>>> >>>>> The DHS' Computer Emergency Readiness Team warned Thursday evening that >>>>> it was being exploited in the wild and could allow an attacker to execute >>>>> arbitrary code on vulnerable systems. >>>>> >>>>> CERT recommended that Java be disabled in Web browsers. It pointed users >>>>> to theSolution section of the US-CERT Alert and to the Oracle Technical >>>>> Note Setting the Security Level of the Java Client for information on how >>>>> to do that." >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 15/01/2013, at 4:55 PM, Merv Bond <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My wife has been sent the following together with several links to other >>>>>> pages. I didn't send the links in case they had the potential to do harm. >>>>>> Can anyone make sense of this message? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Merv >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Java exploit - serious consequences >>>>>> >>>>>> This has been the sequence of events when it has come to Java exploits >>>>>> but this latest one is different, very different. Someone, deep inside a >>>>>> bunker in China no doubt, has discovered that Java, at its core, is >>>>>> insecure and it cannot be simply patched. The whole thing has been >>>>>> compromised and needs to be rewritten. It would be like finding out that >>>>>> the body of your car is made of blasting caps and if you hit anything >>>>>> bigger than a moth it will explode. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130116/1bc3c0b9/attachment.htm > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
