Peter I just realised your questions had nothing to do with the Subject thread 
that you asked your question on. 
So in the interest of people who do search the Archives of WAMUG for previously 
answered queries, I have change the subject to better reflect your questions.

Please people to make our job a little easier, give your operating system, 
details of your computer, and  application version and any other details that 
might be pertinent to your questions.
--- 

Hi Peter,

We have told people how to disable Java plenty of times on WAMUG.

A simple way to see if you have Java installed is to open an application that 
requires it, and one of these that is included with OS X is the Java 
Preferences utility. 
Go to the /Applications/Utilities/ folder in OS X and launch the Java 
Preferences program, and if it opens and shows various configuration options, 
then you have Java installed; however, it if shows a message stating you need 
Java and provides you with an option to install it, then you do not have Java 
installed.

Or use Use the Terminal
The OS X Terminal (in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder) provided access to a 
number of commands that can be used for looking up system information, and by 
running the following one in the Terminal you should be able to see in the 
output what Java runtimes (if any) are installed on your computer:
sudo /usr/libexec/java_home

To check if Flash Player is installed on your computer
<http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html>

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4



On 27/01/2013, at 5:14 PM, Curtis Peter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
> Just out of curiosity, how do you tell if you have java and/or flash? They 
> don't appear in your Applications Folder do they?
> Kind regards
> Peter
> On 27/01/2013, at 4:34 PM, Peter Hinchliffe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 25/01/2013, at 9:51 AM, Ken Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks  Ronni,
>>> 
>>> have successfully removed Applejack.
>>> Is there another program that will do what Applejack does that runs in ML?
>>> 
>>> Is there a consensus by everyone as to the best malware protection for the
>>> Mac?
>>> 
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ken Jackson
>> 
>> Time to bring out the soapbox again...
>> 
>> I doubt if you'll truly get a consensus on the best malware protection 
>> SOFTWARE for the Mac, since I personally don't think that such an animal 
>> exists (so any "consensus" certainly wouldn't include me!) but as far as the 
>> best malware PROTECTION is concerned (to answer your question literally), 
>> that's easy: it's your own behaviour. At this point in time, there are no 
>> true viruses on the Mac platform. There is a handful of examples of other 
>> exploitative software out there, but these all come under the classification 
>> of Trojan Horses, meaning that they require the permission of the user 
>> before they can affect your computer. They also invariably get to your Mac 
>> through third party software such as Java, Adobe Reader, Flash and a few 
>> others. The best advice is to keep your Mac OS up to date, and avoid using 
>> (or disabling completely) Java, Adobe Reader (Safari copes natively with 99% 
>> of the PDFs you're likely to come across) and Flash (install Click2Flash to 
>> reduce Flash problem
 s
>  t
>> 
>> o an absolute minimum).
>> 
>> Apart from this, all the usual personal behaviour rules apply: don't open 
>> attachments from unknown senders, don't download software from peer-to-peer 
>> sites, keep your OS up to date, don't reply to unsolicited emails, don't 
>> click on URLs in unsolicited emails. No software can protect you against any 
>> of this behaviour (even on Windows).
>> 
>> Unlike Windows, there are still no reported cases of MacOS being infected by 
>> a virus (ie, software that arrives uninvited, without any interaction from 
>> the user, and is passed on to other computers ); and unlike OS X, even 
>> Windows 7 has been reported to have been infected in under 10 minutes on an 
>> unprotected computer.  
>> 
>> In my experience, the only thing at which most malware protection software 
>> for the Mac is successful is the slowing down of your computer with little 
>> to show for it, but if you truly feel that you need to install something, go 
>> for something unobtrusive like ClamAV (free) or ESET Cybersecurity 
>> (http://www.eset.com/ch-en/home/products/cybersecurity/ - not free but has a 
>> good reputation).
>> 
>> Getting back down from the soapbox now...
>> 
>> Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
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